Debate on bill and Committee of the Whole House (HL) on Tuesday, 20 January 2026, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Hanson of Flint and Lord Katz. The answering members were Baroness Neville-Rolfe, Lord Davies of Gower and Lord Cameron of Lochiel.

Crime and Policing Bill

Lords committee stage eleventh day. Clause 145 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 852 cc141-193
Session: 2024-26
Department: Home Office
Legislative stage: Committee stage
Procedure: New clauses
Chamber / Committee: House of Lords chamber
Related items: Crime and Policing Bill 2024-26. Brought from the Commons
Thursday, 19 June 2025
Bills
House of Lords; Legislative scrutiny: Crime and Policing Bill. Joint Committee on Human Rights fifth report
Wednesday, 9 July 2025
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
House of Lords; Crime and Policing Bill. Constitution Committee eleventh report
Wednesday, 23 July 2025
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords; Crime and Policing Bill. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee thirty-third report
Wednesday, 3 September 2025
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords; Crime and Policing Bill: Government response. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee forty-first report
Monday, 15 December 2025
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords; Crime and Policing Bill
Tuesday, 20 January 2026
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords; Deposited Paper DEP2026-0100
Monday, 9 February 2026
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions: Lord Davies of Gower | 852 cc141-2 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Davies of Gower
411: After Clause 144, insert the following new Clause—...; Lord Davies of Gower | 852 c142 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendment 411 is in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Cameron of Lochiel and my ...; Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 852 cc142-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment in the name of my noble friend on the Front Bench. At this junc...; Lord Blencathra | 852 cc143-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support my noble friend’s Amendment 411, because it brings clarity and accountability...; Lord Sentamu | 852 c144 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I agree with the wording as it is in the Bill. The word “serious” is quite important. S...; Baroness Chakrabarti | 852 c145 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am pleased to follow the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Sentamu, and share some ...; Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 852 cc145-6 (Link to this contribution)
As usual, the noble Baroness is making a cogent and persuasive case, but I do not think she conce...; Baroness Chakrabarti | 852 c146 (Link to this contribution)
I hear the noble Lord, but with respect, this provision relates to suspicionless stop and search....; Lord Bailey of Paddington | 852 c146 (Link to this contribution)
Section 60 in and of itself is a special circumstance, so whether it is suspicionless needs to be...; Baroness Chakrabarti | 852 cc146-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord for his intervention, but I return to my central point, which is,...; Baroness Doocey | 852 c147 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, there is now considerable evidence about how stop and search powers are used in practic...; Lord Davies of Gower | 852 c147 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this has been a very interesting short debate, and I thank my noble friends—; Lord Hanson of Flint | 852 cc148-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful that we are trying to make some progress—it is really good news—and I look forward ...; Viscount Goschen | 852 c149 (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether the Minister could help us. I listened carefully to his remarks but I am not sur...; Lord Hanson of Flint | 852 c149 (Link to this contribution)
Section 60 powers are in operation and have been there for some significant time. As I shared wit...; Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 852 c149 (Link to this contribution)
On that issue, notwithstanding the fact that these powers have to be sanctioned by a police inspe...; Lord Hanson of Flint | 852 c150 (Link to this contribution)
I say this as best I can to the Committee: to my knowledge, there has been no request from the po...; Baroness Chakrabarti | 852 c150 (Link to this contribution)
Does my noble friend the Minister agree with me on this issue? I think he does, because he said e...; Lord Hanson of Flint | 852 c150 (Link to this contribution)
I did indicate that minor scuffles would not be seen as serious violence. I am not trying to dete...; Lord Davies of Gower | 852 cc150-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this has become an even more interesting debate, and I thank noble Lords for their cont...; Lord Davies of Gower | 852 c151 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Davies of Gower
415: After Clause 144, insert the following new Clause—...; Lord Davies of Gower | 852 cc151-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it has become a cliché to say that a week is a long time in politics, but it is an idio...; Baroness Fox of Buckley | 852 cc152-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am, of course, also delighted that this amendment is now unnecessary and irrelevant, ...; Baroness Chakrabarti | 852 c153 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness: I read that quote as well and was very w...; Baroness Brinton | 852 cc153-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I also support Amendment 415 from the noble Lord, Lord Davies of Gower, which seeks to ...; Lord Katz | 852 cc154-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Davies of Gower, for setting out the case for Ame...; Baroness Fox of Buckley | 852 c155 (Link to this contribution)
Can the noble Lord clarify something? Initially, those of us who spoke suggested that possibly th...; Lord Katz | 852 cc155-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am going to try to stay roughly on the topic of the amendment, rather than turn this into a wid...; Lord Davies of Gower | 852 cc156-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all those who have contributed to this short debate, particularly the noble Bar...; Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 852 c157 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Baroness Neville-Rolfe
416: After Clause 144, insert the following new Claus...; Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 852 cc157-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my Amendment 416 would get around the problem of cyclists hiding themselves from the po...; Lord Hogan-Howe | 852 cc158-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am generally with the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Rolfe, and we have done an awful l...; Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 852 cc159-160 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the excellent and tightly drafted amendment from my noble friend Lady Neville...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 852 c160 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as someone who regularly jumps out of the way on a pavement from e-bikes, electric scoo...; Lord Shamash | 852 c160 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in my experience, the fastest and most dangerous group of cyclists are Deliveroo and Ub...; Lord Blencathra | 852 cc160-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise to support my noble friend Lady Neville-Rolfe and her Amendment 416, because it ...; Viscount Goschen | 852 cc161-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is somewhat Groundhog Day for the Committee, as we have considered very similar am...; Baroness Pidgeon | 852 cc162-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as the noble Viscount, Lord Goschen, said, this is Groundhog Day, and I fear we are reh...; Lord Davies of Gower | 852 cc163-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Neville-Rolfe for tabling Amendment 416, which I entirely ...; Lord Katz | 852 cc164-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Rolfe, for tabling Amendment 416. I recognise ...; Lord Davies of Gower | 852 c165 (Link to this contribution)
We are saying here that the requirement to remove this would be accompanied by some sort of reaso...; Lord Katz | 852 c165 (Link to this contribution)
I completely agree. I was talking more about the rationale for wearing face coverings. Without to...; Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 852 cc165-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for recognising the concern across the Committee—it is a ...; Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 852 c166 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb
416A: After Clause 144, insert the following n...; Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 852 cc166-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is an unusual amendment for me because it is very exploratory. At the end, I am go...; Earl Attlee | 852 c167 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for moving her amendment. Noble Lords will recall m...; Baroness Doocey | 852 cc167-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment rightly exposes a serious weakness in our current system. As the noble Ba...; Lord Davies of Gower | 852 cc168-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, for bringing forward Amendment 416A. While I re...; Lord Hanson of Flint | 852 cc169-170 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for Amendment 416A. It gives me an opportunity, if ...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 852 c170 (Link to this contribution)
Will the White Paper deal with action rather than consultation?; Lord Hanson of Flint | 852 c170 (Link to this contribution)
The White Paper will set out a number of proposals that the Government intend to bring forward in...; Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 852 c170 (Link to this contribution)
I thank all noble Lords who have spoken, and I take to heart the comments of the noble Baroness, ...; Lord Young of Acton | 852 cc170-1 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Young of Acton
416E: After Clause 144, insert the following new Clause—...; Lord Young of Acton | 852 cc171-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare my interest as the director of the Free Speech Union, which has been campaign...; Lord Hogan-Howe | 852 cc172-124 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have added my name to this amendment because we need to move on from the recording of...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 852 c175 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I also very much support this amendment as, I hope, a nudge towards an opening door tha...; Lord Clement-Jones | 852 cc127-177 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is already proving to be a crucial debate in the passage of this Bill. I support A...; Lord Herbert of South Downs | 852 cc132-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I draw attention to my declaration in the register of interests that I am chair of the ...; Lord Blencathra | 852 cc179-182 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am delighted to rise to support my noble friend Lord Young of Acton’s excellent Amend...; Lord Kempsell | 852 cc181-142 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare my interest as a freelance journalist and, therefore, somebody who has a very...; Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 852 cc143-185 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I strongly support the excellent amendment of my noble friend Lord Young of Acton. I de...; Baroness Fox of Buckley | 852 cc185-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to say a heartfelt thank you to the noble Lords, Lord Young of Acton and Lord Ho...; Baroness Brinton | 852 cc187-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Herbert, for his contribution because he set out ...; Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 852 c188 (Link to this contribution)
What the noble Baroness has described is a crime. Those people shouting racist abuse at Jewish pe...; Baroness Brinton | 852 cc153-189 (Link to this contribution)
I referred to the comments made by previous speakers on this group who talked about police wastin...; Lord Davies of Gower | 852 cc189-191 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken on this very important amendment tabled by my n...; Lord Hanson of Flint | 852 cc190-2 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Young of Acton, for tabling this amendment. This has been a useful d...; Lord Blencathra | 852 c160 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the noble Lord for his customary courtesy. I can accept his point that, sin...; Lord Hanson of Flint | 852 cc193-163 (Link to this contribution)
I say to the noble Lord, Lord Blencathra, in the nicest possible way, that my noble and learned f...; Lord Hogan-Howe | 852 cc163-194 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to interrupt the Minster as he was getting towards the end of his speech. I have just ...; Lord Hanson of Flint | 852 cc194-166 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Hogan-Howe, brings great experience to this. In his initial contribution, an...; Lord Young of Acton | 852 cc166-196 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his gracious response. I particularly thank the noble Lord, Lord Hogan-H...; Lord Katz | 852 c195 (Link to this contribution)
I hope the noble Lord is coming to the end of his remarks. When responding on amendments, you are...; Lord Young of Acton | 852 c168 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to the Committee for taking up its time. On that note, I beg leave to withdraw my ame...; Lord Blencathra | 852 c170 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Blencathra
416H: After Clause 144, insert the following new Clause—
...; Lord Blencathra | 852 cc170-200 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Committee will be pleased to know that this is my last batch of amendments on the s...; Viscount Goschen | 852 cc198-175 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I would like briefly to support my noble friend Lord Blencathra in his Amendment 416I, ...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 852 c175 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that fact that someone has brought forward these two amendments makes me feel like sayi...; Baroness Pidgeon | 852 cc179-201 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, these two amendments after Clause 144 from the noble Lord, Lord Blencathra, are trying ...; Lord Cameron of Lochiel | 852 c201 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, has just said, we have spent much time in our prev...; Lord Katz | 852 cc201-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was slightly sad to hear that this is the last of the amendments from the noble Lord,...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 852 c186 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for giving way. If the powers exist, are the police actually using them?
...; Lord Katz | 852 cc188-204 (Link to this contribution)
They are, but we always leave it to chief officers to direct their police forces to use the full ...; Lord Blencathra | 852 cc204-189 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to noble Lords and the Minister for speaking in this short but important little deb...
Notes: Northern Ireland legislative consent granted, Scottish and Welsh legislative consent sought.
Subjects: Crime Anti-social behaviour Cycling Digital technology Hire services Enforcement Police Offensive weapons Proof of identity Parking offences Road traffic offences Stop and search Pedestrian areas Electric scooters HM Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire and Rescue Services Electric bicycles Non-crime hate incidents Balaclavas
Legislation: Crime and Policing Bill 2024-26
Link: View this Parliamentary proceeding on hansard.parliament.uk

Crime and Policing Bill

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