Debate on Tuesday, 7 January 2025, in the House of Commons, led by Joe Robertson. The answering member was Stephanie Peacock.

Employer National Insurance Contributions: Charities

Motion that this House has considered the impact of changes to employers' National Insurance contributions on the charity sector. Agreed to on question.

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 759 cc298-316WH
Session: 2024-26
Department: Department for Culture, Media and Sport
Chamber / Committee: Westminster Hall
Proceeding contributions: Joe Robertson | 759 cc299-8WH (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered the impact of changes to employers’ National ...; Sarah Dyke | 759 c298WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Member for securing this important debate. The Balsam Centre is a charity in Win...; Joe Robertson | 759 c299WH (Link to this contribution)
I of course agree with the hon. Member that the Government must rethink the changes. I will go on...; Jim Shannon | 759 c299WH (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Member give way?; Joe Robertson | 759 c299WH (Link to this contribution)
I will make a little progress and then I will be happy to give way.
The National Council fo...; Jim Shannon | 759 c299WH (Link to this contribution)
I commend the hon. Member for securing this debate. In Northern Ireland, the effect on charities ...; Joe Robertson | 759 c300WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree with both those points. Charities tell us that the change will be the straw that breaks t...; Wendy Morton | 759 c300WH (Link to this contribution)
I commend my hon. Friend for securing this debate. The Midlands Air Ambulance Charity, which serv...; Joe Robertson | 759 c300WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree. Ultimately, the Government should exempt all charities from national insurance contribut...; Roger Gale | 759 c300WH (Link to this contribution)
Shooting Star and Demelza House are two children’s cancer hospice charities that make a significa...; Joe Robertson | 759 c300WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree: of course it is ludicrous. This is charitable money—most of it is charitable donations—t...; John Milne | 759 c300WH (Link to this contribution)
rose—; Joe Robertson | 759 cc300-1WH (Link to this contribution)
I will make a little progress and then come back to the hon. Gentleman.
Most charities are ...; 759 c301WH (Link to this contribution); Joe Robertson | 759 c301WH (Link to this contribution)
I give way to my right hon. Friend the Member for Beverley and Holderness (Graham Stuart).; Graham Stuart | 759 c301WH (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this important debate. We can see from the attendance o...; Joe Robertson | 759 c301WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree that the Minister needs to go back and do that. That is why I secured the debate.
T...; John Milne | 759 c301WH (Link to this contribution)
On the hon. Member’s earlier point about Age UK, it estimates that just in my Horsham constituenc...; Joe Robertson | 759 c301WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Member. Broadly speaking, Age UK operates as small charities in individual ...; Alison Bennett | 759 c302WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Member for securing this debate. On the point made by my hon. Friend the Member ...; Joe Robertson | 759 c302WH (Link to this contribution)
I do agree. It looks like the Government do not understand that healthcare is delivered not only ...; Helen Grant | 759 c302WH (Link to this contribution)
rose—; Joe Robertson | 759 c302WH (Link to this contribution)
I will give some examples before I give way to my hon. Friend.
The change will cost Marie C...; Helen Grant | 759 c302WH (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this important debate. The Heart of Kent hospice in my ...; Joe Robertson | 759 cc302-3WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree. Putting pressure on other health providers and social care providers inevitably leads to...; Sorcha Eastwood | 759 c303WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Member for bringing forward this issue. I agree with him completely in so far as...; Joe Robertson | 759 c303WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree, and would like to share the hon. Member’s optimism that the Government do intend to make...; Wendy Chamberlain | 759 c304WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Member for securing the debate. I think we can all suggest what the Gov...; Joe Robertson | 759 c303WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree, although I am perhaps a little more optimistic than the hon. Member. The Government migh...; Richard Foord | 759 c303WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member was exactly right to draw particular attention to hospices, given that the House ...; Joe Robertson | 759 cc304-5WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree, and the hon. Member perfectly illustrates the point that the Government’s stated aims ar...; Valerie Vaz | 759 c305WH (Link to this contribution)
Hon. Members can see the time now and we have to take wind-ups from about 5.8 pm. A number of peo...; 759 c305WH (Link to this contribution); Valerie Vaz | 759 c305WH (Link to this contribution)
I am reliably informed that each person will have one minute in which to speak; I am afraid that ...; Blake Stephenson | 759 c305WH (Link to this contribution)
I will be really quick, Madam Chair.
I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Isle of Wight Ea...; Valerie Vaz | 759 cc305-6WH (Link to this contribution)
Order. I am really sorry, but I have to stop you. Could Members bob each time, in between speeche...; Abtisam Mohamed | 759 c306WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under you, Chair, and I congratulate the hon. Member for Isle of Wight ...; Valerie Vaz | 759 c306WH (Link to this contribution)
Order. I am really sorry; we are done.
4.57 pm; Marie Goldman | 759 c306WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Member for Isle of Wight East (Joe Robertson) for bringing this really important...; Valerie Vaz | 759 c306WH (Link to this contribution)
Order. I call Patrick Hurley to speak.
4.59 pm; Patrick Hurley | 759 cc306-7WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Ms Vaz, and I thank the hon. Member for Isle of W...; Shockat Adam | 759 c307WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Ms Vaz. I thank the hon. Member for Isle of Wi...; Jack Rankin | 759 c307WH (Link to this contribution)
Now, as we are debating here, senior members of the Thames Valley Air Ambulance are working out h...; Lee Dillon | 759 cc307-8WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Ms Vaz. I thank the hon. Member for Isle of Wight...; Peter Fortune | 759 c308WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Isle of Wight East (Joe Robertson) for bringing forward the...; Seamus Logan | 759 cc308-9WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship again, Ms Vaz. I thank the hon. Member for Isle...; Vikki Slade | 759 cc309-8WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Ms Vaz. There are 328 charities in my constitu...; Victoria Collins | 759 cc308-9WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Ms Vaz, and I congratulate the hon. Member for...; Edward Morello | 759 c309WH (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the hon. Member for Isle of Wight East (Joe Robertson) on securing this debate. I ...; Valerie Vaz | 759 c310WH (Link to this contribution)
Last but not least, I call Tom Gordon.
5.8 pm; Tom Gordon | 759 c310WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Member for Isle of Wight East (Joe Robertson) for bringing this debate forward. ...; Valerie Vaz | 759 c310WH (Link to this contribution)
I think we can squeeze one more Back-Bench speaker in. I call Clive Jones.
5.9 pm; Clive Jones | 759 c310WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Ms Vaz. I thank the hon. Member for Isle of Wi...; Valerie Vaz | 759 c310WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank hon. Members. Everyone who wanted to speak has done. I now call the Liberal Democrat spok...; Daisy Cooper | 759 cc310-1WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Ms Vaz. I congratulate the hon. Member for Isle o...; Valerie Vaz | 759 cc311-2WH (Link to this contribution)
Order. We are expecting a vote but I will call the Opposition spokesperson, Saqib Bhatti.
5...; Saqib Bhatti | 759 cc312-3WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Ms Vaz. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Memb...; Stephanie Peacock | 759 cc313-4WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Ms Vaz. I congratulate the hon. Member for Isle o...; Graham Stuart | 759 c314WH (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister agree that if it turns out that it will cost the NHS more to bring in the chang...; Stephanie Peacock | 759 cc311-2WH (Link to this contribution)
As the right hon. Gentleman makes clear, I am not personally responsible for the specific policy,...; Seamus Logan | 759 c312WH (Link to this contribution)
The Minister mentioned a number of mitigations for charities, and she said that she thinks that v...; Stephanie Peacock | 759 cc313-5WH (Link to this contribution)
I did not catch all of that intervention, but I said that half of charities would either stay the...; Roger Gale | 759 c315WH (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to intrude on the Minister’s time. As I understand it, the extension of the children’s...; Stephanie Peacock | 759 c315WH (Link to this contribution)
I know the huge amount of work that children’s hospices do, and I have done a lot of work with Bl...; Patrick Hurley | 759 c315WH (Link to this contribution)
The Conservative party has been very clear that it wants tax cuts, but less clear on what public ...; Stephanie Peacock | 759 c315WH (Link to this contribution)
I appreciate that point. The bottom line is that we have been very clear that we want economic st...; Vikki Slade | 759 c315WH (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?; Stephanie Peacock | 759 cc315-6WH (Link to this contribution)
I have taken a number of interventions, so in the interests of time, I will make some progress.; Joe Robertson | 759 c316WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for coming here to address the arguments that have been made, particularly a...
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