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A couple of moments ago, the right hon. Gentleman said that the Union might become weaker with the passage of the Bill. How much weaker does he think that 88-year-old Union—stretching back to 1922—might be after Royal Assent tomorrow?

Member
Angus Brendan MacNeil (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c870
House
House of Commons

The boundary commissions will have to draw up a scheme of constituencies and they will have examine the entire country. In some constituencies there may not be much need to vary from the quota, perhaps because there may not be many ties to take account of. However, there will be...

Member
Lord Harper (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c862
House
House of Commons

In my lifetime?

Member
David Winnick (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c845
House
House of Commons

I agree with my hon. Friend the Member for Epping Forest (Mrs Laing) and the hon. Member for Rhondda (Chris Bryant). My Broxbourne constituents are horrified at the cost of this referendum, which some commentators have said could be as high as £250 million. I dare to say that this...

Member
Charles Walker (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c833
House
House of Commons

The hon. Member for Rhondda (Chris Bryant) has referred to the wrecking amendments we debated and voted on in Committee. Essentially, what we have tonight are wrecking amendments that are bubble-wrapped. No matter what the sophistry of Opposition Front Benchers or anyone else, we know what the intention is: to...

Member
Mark Durkan (Social Democratic & Labour Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c906-7
House
House of Commons

I am sorry; I did not quite understand my hon. Friend's point. We debated and voted on his proposal on thresholds in this House, and it was defeated by 549 votes to 31—[Interruption.] Well, my hon. Friend should have another go, because I did not really follow the point he...

Member
Lord Harper (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c898
House
House of Commons

As the Minister set out, this is a minor money resolution, and we do not have a major problem with it. However, perhaps I can use this opportunity to raise an issue in relation to the combination of polls—the reason we need this resolution—as it affects Scotland. As I am...

Member
Chris Bryant (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c830
House
House of Commons

Let me make a little more progress. I am conscious that other Members want to contribute and I have been generous. As drafted, the Bill that left this House offered simplicity and, above all, certainty—the certainty that every vote would count and not be distorted by an artificial barrier. When...

Member
Lord Harper (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c900
House
House of Commons

This measure gives boundary commissions the range to be able to take account of issues such as local ties, but it also sets the quota. Boundary commissions should aim at the quota, but we want them to have a range so that they can take account of those local ties....

Member
Lord Harper (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c862
House
House of Commons

I have a dazzling range of talent to choose from, but I have not heard yet from the hon. Member for Na h-Eileanan an Iar (Mr MacNeil).

Member
Lord Harper (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c863
House
House of Commons

Surely the hon. Gentleman must realise that every major boundary review, including those that took place before the 1983, 1997 and 2010 elections, resulted in more than half of all constituencies changing, often substantially. That is the nature of any boundary review.

Member
Mark Field (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c868
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend makes a perfect point. He is absolutely right. Someone cannot be judge, jury and appeal judge of their own decision. The danger is that people will go to court to try to resolve the problem. That is inevitable. All the Cross-Bench lawyers who spoke in the Lords...

Member
Chris Bryant (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c851
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend and constituency neighbour refers to Sherburn in Elmet. I assure him that the people of Sherburn in Elmet consider themselves very much in North Yorkshire and would be appalled at the idea of being seen as part of Leeds.

Member
Nigel Adams (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c871
House
House of Commons

My problem with Lords amendment 19 is new paragraph 5A(b) of schedule 2 to the Parliamentary Constituencies Act 1986, which states that"““such necessity arises from special geographical considerations or local ties””." I want to focus on ““local ties””, because that is why I shall vote against the amendment. It is...

Member
Alec Shelbrooke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c871
House
House of Commons

The Union will be weaker as a result, because the Bill will not take into account the various points that I have just described. If we do not allow the small countries within our larger country to be properly represented within the Chambers of the legislature, we will ensure a...

Member
Lord Murphy of Torfaen (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c871
House
House of Commons

In the examples that I have just given, of Welsh-speaking constituencies in Wales, the seats are held mainly by Plaid Cymru and the Liberal Democrat party, so there is no advantage for the Labour party in that. I am not arguing a partisan point; I am arguing that 7.5% would...

Member
Lord Murphy of Torfaen (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c870
House
House of Commons

That extra flexibility allows for the factor that I have just described in Wales and elsewhere to be taken into account—of course it does. I should argue very strongly for 10%, but the Government have a particular principle behind their legislation, which incidentally is based not in any way on...

Member
Lord Murphy of Torfaen (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c870
House
House of Commons

The right hon. Gentleman is doing very well, as ever, at putting before the House what appears to be an argument based on principle, but in reality are not he and his Labour party colleagues afraid of the inflexibility of a 5% variation, because it would take away their in-built...

Member
Baroness Laing of Elderslie (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c870
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is absolutely right, in the sense that the unity of our kingdom is based on the recognition of the differences within it. Those differences can be reflected linguistically, culturally, socially and in other ways. The rigidity with which the Government have embarked on this course puts that...

Member
Lord Murphy of Torfaen (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c870
House
House of Commons

I set out from the Government's perspective the reason why we settled on plus or minus 5%—a 10% range that is based on more equal seats but allows the use of wards as building blocks. Can the right hon. Gentleman explain to the House the principled reason why he thinks...

Member
Lord Harper (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 February 2011
Reference
523 c870
House
House of Commons