My Lords, I am a member of the Joint Select Committee on Human Rights; I shall leave it the day after tomorrow, or whenever Parliament rises, because I have done my four years. The committee looked at this issue and did not think it would pass the Human Rights Act...

My Lords, I am a member of the Joint Select Committee on Human Rights; I shall leave it the day after tomorrow, or whenever Parliament rises, because I have done my four years. The committee looked at this issue and did not think it would pass the Human Rights Act...

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for his first remarks, which were generous and in stark contrast to those of the noble Lord, Lord Myners, on the previous Question—perhaps that is a bit unfair. I do not know whether this is possible, but Amendment No. 61A goes on for...

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for his first remarks, which were generous and in stark contrast to those of the noble Lord, Lord Myners, on the previous Question—perhaps that is a bit unfair. I do not know whether this is possible, but Amendment No. 61A goes on for...

The noble Lord has now said several times that there is a need for a proper debate on this. Those of us who take a very dim view of the Government’s creeping practice would like to know when this debate is going to take place and if, as a result,...

The noble Lord has now said several times that there is a need for a proper debate on this. Those of us who take a very dim view of the Government’s creeping practice would like to know when this debate is going to take place and if, as a result,...

Can the noble Lord help me a little on this? If someone is detained for up to 28 days, presumably their fingerprints and a DNA sample will be taken. If they are released as completely innocent, will the fingerprints and sample be destroyed or will they be kept?

Can the noble Lord help me a little on this? If someone is detained for up to 28 days, presumably their fingerprints and a DNA sample will be taken. If they are released as completely innocent, will the fingerprints and sample be destroyed or will they be kept?

If the noble Lord and I found ourselves in chokey together, our fingerprints would be taken. If the police then found that they had made a terrible mistake and decided that we are upright and upstanding citizens of the highest rectitude, we would be released. We can then ask for...

If the noble Lord and I found ourselves in chokey together, our fingerprints would be taken. If the police then found that they had made a terrible mistake and decided that we are upright and upstanding citizens of the highest rectitude, we would be released. We can then ask for...

How can someone whose fingerprints were taken covertly ask for them to be deleted? He probably does not know that they have been taken.

How can someone whose fingerprints were taken covertly ask for them to be deleted? He probably does not know that they have been taken.

I apologise for being late on this. This fingerprint business is something about which I feel very strongly; I have asked Questions in the House about it, especially about DNA samples. The Government’s collecting everything in these vast databanks, particularly DNA databases, is a serious infringement on our liberties. DNA...

I apologise for being late on this. This fingerprint business is something about which I feel very strongly; I have asked Questions in the House about it, especially about DNA samples. The Government’s collecting everything in these vast databanks, particularly DNA databases, is a serious infringement on our liberties. DNA...

No, the noble Baroness says, over there. Could we hear from them exactly what the attitude of the intelligence services is? That would underline what the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, said. I think I am right in saying that, if it can be shown that evidence has been obtained through...

No, the noble Baroness says, over there. Could we hear from them exactly what the attitude of the intelligence services is? That would underline what the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, said. I think I am right in saying that, if it can be shown that evidence has been obtained through...

My name is to this amendment. I agree completely with what the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, has said. Furthermore, I would like to underline the fact that amendments in my name and those of the noble Lords, Lord Dubs and Lord Lester of Herne Hill, and the noble Baroness, Lady...

My name is to this amendment. I agree completely with what the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, has said. Furthermore, I would like to underline the fact that amendments in my name and those of the noble Lords, Lord Dubs and Lord Lester of Herne Hill, and the noble Baroness, Lady...

I find the noble Lord’s reasoning compelling; it seems to need to make complete sense. Those at Bagram air base, the Pakistani joint intelligence service and the Syrians are people from whom we all get information. In those places, there has been well documented evidence of ill treatment. The Americans...

I find the noble Lord’s reasoning compelling; it seems to need to make complete sense. Those at Bagram air base, the Pakistani joint intelligence service and the Syrians are people from whom we all get information. In those places, there has been well documented evidence of ill treatment. The Americans...

The noble Lord may change his mind very rapidly from agreeing with us, seeing the Prime Minister and disagreeing with us 10 minutes later.

The noble Lord may change his mind very rapidly from agreeing with us, seeing the Prime Minister and disagreeing with us 10 minutes later.

The Minister has read out something from the PACE code that goes beyond reasonable. If the PACE code goes beyond reasonable, what is wrong with putting ““reasonable”” in the Bill?

The Minister has read out something from the PACE code that goes beyond reasonable. If the PACE code goes beyond reasonable, what is wrong with putting ““reasonable”” in the Bill?

I have one small question to fill my small brain with information. Is this procedure different from the one for searching the premises of someone accused, for instance, of murder or another very serious crime, and, if so, how and why?

I have one small question to fill my small brain with information. Is this procedure different from the one for searching the premises of someone accused, for instance, of murder or another very serious crime, and, if so, how and why?

Is this not self-incrimination? It goes against all our traditions to put someone in prison for six months for failing to produce something that he may feel will be detrimental to him and over which he has a guilty conscience. I recall a case in the ECHR where financial people...

Is this not self-incrimination? It goes against all our traditions to put someone in prison for six months for failing to produce something that he may feel will be detrimental to him and over which he has a guilty conscience. I recall a case in the ECHR where financial people...

Perhaps the noble Lord could come back on Report with a clever subsection so that people like me and even the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd—whose little grey cells, as Hercule Poirot said, are infinitely greater than mine—might understand it.

Perhaps the noble Lord could come back on Report with a clever subsection so that people like me and even the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd—whose little grey cells, as Hercule Poirot said, are infinitely greater than mine—might understand it.

Am I right to say that basically this clause states that if we seize something illegally and it turns out to be useful, we can use it?

Am I right to say that basically this clause states that if we seize something illegally and it turns out to be useful, we can use it?

It is made worse by the fact that it will be a civil penalty. Presumably the burden of proof will be on the balance of probability or be fined 2,500 quid. When people stood around a small place called Runnymede they did not expect their government to behave like that, but...

It is made worse by the fact that it will be a civil penalty. Presumably the burden of proof will be on the balance of probability or be fined 2,500 quid. When people stood around a small place called Runnymede they did not expect their government to behave like that, but...

If, as my noble friend has pointed out, there are to be only 70 registration centres and the population of this country is nearly 60 million—and assuming a 60 per cent take up, including children—that means that each centre will have a client base of three-quarters of a million people. Is this cloud...

If, as my noble friend has pointed out, there are to be only 70 registration centres and the population of this country is nearly 60 million—and assuming a 60 per cent take up, including children—that means that each centre will have a client base of three-quarters of a million people. Is this cloud...

The noble Baroness gave a wonderful Freudian slip. She listed a number of documents and said, ““We have absolutely no power of designating them””. But then she takes the power to designate them. Those of us on this side of the House who care about civil liberties find that desperately...

The noble Baroness gave a wonderful Freudian slip. She listed a number of documents and said, ““We have absolutely no power of designating them””. But then she takes the power to designate them. Those of us on this side of the House who care about civil liberties find that desperately...