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Today I would like to update the House on prisons and probation following the Opposition day debate of 14 May 2019.

Our prison and probation systems have faced challenges in recent years, with changes in population, changes in the nature of crimes being committed and wider societal changes impacting the...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Department
Ministry of Justice
Type
Written statements
Notes
Government response to an Opposition Day debate.
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
HCWS1783
House
House of Commons

We will look at the merits of all the bidders for those new contracts, but I am not going to draw up any red lines today. The bids will need to be looked at in their totality.

Answered by
David Gauke (Conservative)
Answering body
Ministry of Justice
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
4 June 2019
Reference
661 c12
House
House of Commons

With permission, Mr Speaker, I should like to make a statement on the Government’s response to the “Strengthening Probation, Building Confidence” consultation. Earlier today, I laid this Government response for consideration by both Houses. The response sets out our proposals for the future of the probation service. Across England and...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 cc401-3
House
House of Commons

To be fair, by the hon. Gentleman’s standards that was quite a warm welcome for this policy announcement. I thank him for that.

Let me pick up some of the points he made. He talked about the costs and about the squandering of vast sums of money; the House should be...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 cc404-5
House
House of Commons

That is a very interesting point and certainly something that I am keen to explore. The Chairman of the Justice Committee has hit the nail on the head: sentencer confidence is key. It is well known that there is support across the House for trying to move away from short...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c405
House
House of Commons

Clearly, there have been difficulties about the payment-by-results model in this context, and Dame Glenys Stacey has been very clear about that. She described herself as being delighted by the announcement today. I am delighted that she is delighted.

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c406
House
House of Commons

With regard to previous experience, there is always a balance to be struck between trying to deliver something in good time and waiting to see all the evidence emerge. On where we are now, we should move to a different model. We will lead with Wales, and by the end...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c406
House
House of Commons

First, let me make the point about costs. I come back to the point that I made earlier, which is that our expenditure with community rehabilitation companies has been considerably lower than had been forecast—£1.4 billion lower. That takes into account the £467 million to which the hon. Lady referred,...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c406
House
House of Commons

My right hon. Friend makes a very important point. I am keen to ensure that we have the innovation that we need, and I have talked about the innovation fund. It is very important that we are led by the data and that where good practice is identified it is...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c407
House
House of Commons

I shall try to be emollient again. The fact is that the reoffending rate has fallen since Transforming Rehabilitation was brought in. There are areas of very good practice within the private sector. A number of parliamentary colleagues have highlighted good practice in their own areas. That tends to be...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c407
House
House of Commons

Yes. That is a very important point and I am grateful to my hon. Friend for raising that issue. When it comes to bringing down reoffending, making sure that we address issues of mental health and substance abuse will be key. This is not just about probation, but probation has...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c407
House
House of Commons

We will certainly want to prioritise organisations that deliver the best results; that is the key task. As the hon. Gentleman says, it is often the smaller voluntary services that are able to do that. At this point, it is not a question of providing specific targets as such. We...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c408
House
House of Commons

I thank the right hon. Lady for welcoming the reforms. She asks whether I can guarantee that the Ministry of Justice will not be run along ideological lines but when I look across the Chamber, I am really not sure that I can provide that guarantee; it may be up...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c408
House
House of Commons

Every individual case such as the one mentioned by the hon. Lady is a tragedy. We want to do everything we can to ensure that such cases are kept to a minimum, but there will always be individual decisions made by probation officers in the NPS or CRCs, and such...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c408
House
House of Commons

I can see that the hon. Lady has been working hard on her question. In 2014, the probation system was by no means perfect. There was a need for more innovation, and to ensure that we dealt with some of the inefficiencies in the system. Five years on, there are...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c409
House
House of Commons

To be candid, one of the problems that we have faced with the current system is that the case load of low and medium-risk offenders has been significantly lower than was anticipated when the system was set up. As a consequence, the CRCs have not had the work that they...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c410
House
House of Commons

We are working on the basis of 11 regions, and one of those regions—Wales—is a nation. I recognise that much could be done to ensure that the system is as localised as possible. I have been talking to police and crime commissioners to see if there is more that could...

Member
David Gauke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 c410
House
House of Commons

Statement on the Government's response to the "Strengthening Probation, Building Confidence" consultation (CP 93).

Lead member
David Gauke
Department
Ministry of Justice
Type
Ministerial statements
Date
16 May 2019
Reference
660 cc401-410
House
House of Commons