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My Lords, I thank everybody who has contributed. I suppose we had to have the debate in principle at some stage, and we have had it on Clause 1. I will attempt to provide some reassurance to noble Lords. I suspect that those who think that somehow the Government have...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 cc1779-1780
House
House of Lords

I will let the noble Lord come back in a moment, but let me make a little progress—I might answer some of his points, you never know.

Let us not pretend that it is all perfect. I accept that the Opposition have a principled difference with us on how we go...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1780
House
House of Lords

I am going to make this point and then I will allow the noble Lord to intervene.

Our high standards were never dependent on our membership of the European Union. We provide stronger protection for workers than is required by EU law, both under previous Governments and under this Government. Let...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 cc1780-1
House
House of Lords

They are on the dashboard if they are retained EU law. I noticed that, in all the statements and speeches from Members opposite, the words “if” and “could” were doing an awful lot of heavy lifting. I accept that there is no trust from the Opposition in the intentions of...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1781
House
House of Lords

If the noble Lord will sit down, I will come to him in a second. I will make this point and then I will give way.

UK rights were provided in the complicated mishmash of UK law, with higher standards often based on minimum standards and provisions that were in EU...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1781
House
House of Lords

As the noble Lord knows very well, that is not what I am saying. The reason that I am not saying that goes back to two points made earlier in the debate. First, there is a complicated mishmash of rights and responsibilities across these

particular laws, but we will maintain...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1781
House
House of Lords

The noble and learned Lord knows I have tremendous respect for him and there is a great deal of sense in what he says. If we are getting into a discussion about the sunset, it is my view and the Government’s view that we can do all of this, given...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1782
House
House of Lords

I will give way in a second; let me answer the previous point before the noble Baroness makes another. I think it is perfectly possible and work is under way in the business department and in Defra, which have many of these retained EU laws, to do precisely that. As...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1782
House
House of Lords

“Yes” is the answer to the noble Baroness’s question. All new regulations will be subject to a period of consultation. I have to say, with great respect, I would have a little more sympathy for the noble Baroness’s argument had any of these regulations been introduced into UK law in...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1783
House
House of Lords

I totally understand the point the noble Baroness is making. I have looked at this—indeed, I was the Minster responsible until very recently for the Regulatory Policy Committee, which does some fantastic work. But of course it is very difficult to produce an impact assessment for what is essentially an...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1783
House
House of Lords

We will get to that debate on those technical amendments later.

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1784
House
House of Lords

I think it was the noble Lord, Lord Davies, who talked about the Financial Services and Markets Bill, which repealed a number of EU regulations and produced regulations that were more suitable for the UK.

Moving to the specific amendments we are debating, Amendment 23 relates to the transfer of undertakings...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1784
House
House of Lords

I have already given the noble Lord examples of where UK worker standards and employment regulations are superior to the base standards of the EU. I cannot give him a specific answer to his question, as he well understands, because that work is ongoing, but it is ongoing in the...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 cc1784-5
House
House of Lords

I totally understand the point my noble friend makes; I am a passionate believer in the rights of this House and have happily stated on many occasions within government that in many cases we do a much better job of scrutinising legislation than the other House. It sometimes makes life...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1785
House
House of Lords

They certainly have the power to examine, repeal or change EU law within their specific areas of competence.

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1785
House
House of Lords

I thought I had given the noble Baroness a serious response. Within the area of devolved competence, the devolved Administrations have the same rights as the UK Government to amend, repeal or replace retained EU law.

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1786
House
House of Lords

I thank all those who have contributed. I listened with interest to my noble friend Lady Altmann but I am afraid that her points were incorrect. I will not repeat the points that I made on the first group about how UK standards are superior. Those standards were introduced in...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1793
House
House of Lords

I am sorry that my noble friend does not seem able to understand this, but the Bill provides the tools to remove or retain EU law. It also enables the Government—I repeat this point again—to preserve and restate retained EU law. If my noble friend had listened to our debate...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1794
House
House of Lords

Let me make the point to my noble friend before I give way to her again. Many of these regulations will indeed be preserved, retained or replaced. If it is the case that the Government come forward with such proposals, those regulations will be consulted on, and debated in the...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1794
House
House of Lords

My noble friend asks what she can say to women. She can tell them that they have one of the highest minimum wages in Europe as a result of the policies of this Government, that they are entitled to 5.6 weeks of annual leave compared with an EU requirement of...

Member
Lord Callanan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2023
Reference
827 c1794
House
House of Lords