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Programme (No. 2) motion. Agreed to on question. Consideration of Lords message. Lords amendment 1B, motion to disagree. Division called, then cancelled. Agreed to on question. Commons amendment 2, motion to insist, agreed to on division (331 to 65).

Lead member
Emma Hardy
Department
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Debates on bills
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762
House
House of Commons

I am delighted to have another opportunity to debate this transformative Bill in this Chamber. I thank all Members for continuing to take an interest in this important piece of legislation, which demonstrates our shared commitment to improving the water sector. Today, this House will consider amendments made in the...

Member
Emma Hardy (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 cc186-7
House
House of Commons

Ofwat has said that it believes that the right level of debt should be 60%, yet it has taken no action against those companies whose level of debt has risen to as much as 80%. Can the Minister assure us that under the Bill, Ofwat will not only have the...

Member
Barry Gardiner (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 c195
House
House of Commons

I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. I know how much he cares about this and many environmental issues. Amendment (a) refers only to the reporting arrangements for levels of debt rather than specifying the levels of debt that would be acceptable. It is about increased transparency, whereas his...

Member
Emma Hardy (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 cc195-6
House
House of Commons

It is a great pleasure to speak in this final stage of the Bill. Before I start my remarks, I will respond to the pertinent question about levels of borrowing for water companies asked by my friend and former colleague on the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee, the hon....

Member
Neil Hudson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 cc196-9
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to be back talking about the Bill again. In Committee and on Report, the Liberal Democrats put down a grand total of 56 amendments. What is two more? We believe, as the hon. Member for Epping Forest (Dr Hudson) said, that this Bill is a good...

Member
Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 cc188-200
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman put forward a veritable smorgasbord of amendments in the Bill Committee, and all those issues were discussed. It is so important that Ofwat retains its independence. It is extremely relevant to point out, however, that during the coalition years and the 14 years the Conservatives were in...

Member
Catherine Fookes (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 c200
House
House of Commons

The hon. Lady is right. Previous Governments of all parties have not tackled these issues as they should have done—including, of course, the previous Labour Government, under Gordon Brown and Tony Blair. There is no doubt whatsoever, however, that we are now looking at a massively changed situation. Why do...

Member
Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 cc201-189
House
House of Commons

I am slightly curious as to why, at the eleventh hour, the third party is now changing its position. In the other place, when this amendment was pushed to a vote, the Liberal Democrats abstained on two occasions, but now they are playing political games and actually risking the progress...

Member
Neil Hudson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 c189
House
House of Commons

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I can do maths, so I know there is absolutely no threat whatsoever to the progress of this Bill—I know what the numbers will be, roughly, when and if we divide on this matter.

I am not a late convert but an early...

Member
Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 cc189-202
House
House of Commons

I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way again. He talks about a number of fantastic amendments the third party made in Committee, many of which were so poorly worded that they were not actually worth voting on. His particular amendment about abolishing Ofwat actually contained no...

Member
Neil Hudson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 c202
House
House of Commons

It did.

Member
Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 c202
House
House of Commons

It did not. It did not set out how much it would cost or how long it would take. While we want Ofwat to have the teeth to hold water companies to account, the third party proposes getting rid of it. Again, is it the party of protest that is...

Member
Neil Hudson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 c202
House
House of Commons

I have already taken two interventions from the hon. Gentleman, so I will not.

My simple comment is that this Bill will do good, and we are supportive of it. We wish only to trouble the House a short time to ensure greater scrutiny is brought in. We have accepted throughout...

Member
Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 cc193-4
House
House of Commons

With the leave of the House, I thank all hon. Members for their thoughtful and valuable contributions to today’s debate. Without stepping into the territory of a Second Reading debate, I suggest gently to the House that we are here today debating the Water (Special Measures) Bill precisely because of...

Member
Emma Hardy (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 c203
House
House of Commons

I am slightly concerned that the Minister is raising questions about my honesty. The water restoration fund exists, but where is it now? What has happened to it? Are the Government going to use it again? That is why we wanted to push, at every stage of the Bill, the...

Member
Neil Hudson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 c203
House
House of Commons

I am very happy to issue that correction.

Question put.

A Division was called.

Member
Emma Hardy (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
762 cc196-8
House
House of Commons

Moved by

Baroness Hayman of Ullock

Member
Baroness Hayman of Ullock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
843 c1179
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in moving Motion A, I will also speak to Motion B. Before I speak to the detail of the changes made in the other place, I start by thanking all noble Lords for their continued interest in this important Bill. I give particular thanks to the noble Lord,...

Member
Baroness Hayman of Ullock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
843 cc1178-1184
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Roborough, for his support and his kind words as to how we have reached this position. I agree with him that the Bill leaves this House, as most Bills do, in a better shape than when it arrived.

I hope that all noble...

Member
Baroness Hayman of Ullock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2025
Reference
843 c1185
House
House of Lords