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My Lords, I rise briefly to support the noble Baroness in moving her amendment. This might not be something that we want to send back to the Commons today, but I hope that my noble friend the Minister will tell us what he will do about this problem, because of...

Member
Earl Attlee (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 c1121
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede, for tabling Amendments 104E and 104F, because this gives me an opportunity to speak to them as I was not available at an earlier stage.

My first point is that sex for rent is invariably immoral and abhorrent...

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Earl Attlee (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 cc1125-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have no issue with what the noble Lord said, nor with what the noble Baroness said. This problem has been going on for a very long time and large numbers are involved; I do not disagree with that.

Member
Earl Attlee (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 c1131
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have worked with the noble Lord, Lord Bach, for many years in this House —sadly, on opposite sides of it—but I have never heard him make a stronger argument for anything. The only reason why I cannot say that I will support him is because I have...

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Earl Attlee (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 c1137
House
House of Lords

The noble Lord told the House that we agreed on a cross-party basis that these arrangements were appropriate. Was that by means of a vote or did we just acquiesce to it?

Member
Earl Attlee (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 c1140
House
House of Lords

My Lords, having begun my response to the previous group with an apology for getting a date wrong, I then went on to get another date wrong. The case of Antia is, for those noble Lords keen to read it, 2020 and not 2000. The rest of the legal analysis,...

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Lord Wolfson of Tredegar (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 cc1150-2
House
House of Lords

Lords report stage fifth day. Amendment 104E agreed to on division (206 to 176). Amendment 104F agreed to. Amendment 104FE agreed to on division (157 to 145). Amendments 107A and 107B agreed to. Amendment 109A agreed to on division (32 to 20).

Lead member
Baroness Williams of Trafford; Lord Sharpe of Epsom; Lord Wolfson of Tredegar
Answering member
Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede; Lord Rosser; Lord Coaker; Baroness Chapman of Darlington
Department
Ministry of Justice
Type
Debates on bills
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 cc1088-1188
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I fully support the amendment. Sometimes I feel a bit as if I am in “Groundhog Day” as we listen to things that are said again and again. When we first discussed the Bill in this House, many people far more learned than me commented on all the...

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Bishop of Gloucester (Bishops (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 c1100
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I speak in place of my right reverend friend the Bishop of Derby, who sadly cannot be here today. She and I support this amendment, to which she has added her name. I declare her interest as vice-chair of the Children’s Society. These are her words.

In Committee, my...

Member
Bishop of Gloucester (Bishops (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 cc1110-2
House
House of Lords

It is the batting.

Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 c1091
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Meacher

103: After Clause 172, insert the following new Clause—

“Restorative justice

The Secretary of State must, every five years—

(a) prepare an action plan on restorative justice for the purpose of improving access, awareness and capacity of restorative justice within the criminal justice system,

(b) publish a copy of the action plan,...

Member
Baroness Meacher (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 cc1088-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, Amendment 103 seeks to ensure that the regular action plans on restorative justice provided by the Ministry of Justice until 2008 be restored and also that they should be published and a report produced on progress on the previous action plan as well. It is a more modest...

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Baroness Meacher (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 cc1089-1090
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I made a very brief reference to restorative justice in one of our debates on Monday. I am glad to have an opportunity to comment briefly on the amendment just moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Meacher. I agree with her wholeheartedly. We should always do everything we...

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Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 c1090
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I intervene to express my support for this modest but worthwhile amendment and, like my noble friend Lord Cormack, to urge my noble friend the Minister to give a sympathetic response when he winds up in a moment or two.

I have had an interest in RJ—restorative justice—for a...

Member
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 cc1090-1
House
House of Lords

Well, shall we change them both? I think changing the batting is a fair comment.

My noble friend and I have had one go round on reoffending over the bunching of Friday prisoners, and we now have a situation where three-sevenths of all prisoners released come out on a Friday, with...

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Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 cc1091-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lords, Lord Cormack and Lord Hodgson, and to agree with what they say. I support this amendment very strongly and I regret that we will not vote on it, because this is so important for justice. At the moment, justice...

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Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 c1092
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I rise to strongly support this amendment, which was so ably introduced by my noble friend Lady Meacher, particularly if it is matched by a strong commitment to restorative justice among all sections of Her Majesty’s Prison and Probation Service, particularly prison governors. I have witnessed an unfortunate...

Member
Lord Ramsbotham (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 c1092
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too support this amendment. It asks the Secretary of State to prepare an action plan and to show how it is being implemented or otherwise, so it is not asking that which is beyond common sense.

I take your Lordships back to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission in...

Member
Lord Sentamu (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 cc1092-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, perhaps I may make three quick points in support of this important amendment. First, we all accept that short sentences are extremely expensive to manage and expensive to our society, and we ought to do our best to provide alternatives to them. They are also expensive in other...

Member
Lord Laming (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 cc1093-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I remind the House that at one stage in my police career I was the lead for the Metropolitan Police on restorative justice, working with Professor Larry Sherman. The evidence from that experience and other academic studies shows that the benefits to victims, in terms of allaying fear...

Member
Lord Paddick (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 January 2022
Reference
817 c1094
House
House of Lords