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Moved by

Lord Judge

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 8, at end insert—

“( ) The front page of the Census Form must state, “Completing the census is compulsory and you are liable to be fined if you fail to do so. There are three questions marked “This question is voluntary” and...

Member
Lord Judge (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 June 2019
Reference
798 c722
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I see many people are leaving. This is not riveting stuff so I do not recommend that your Lordships all stay.

In Committee in June I moved an amendment to the Bill that is rather difficult to follow unless you have the original 1920 Act before you, and I...

Member
Lord Judge (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 June 2019
Reference
798 cc722-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I want to speak at this point because I want to leave another question with the Minister and give him time to respond.

I thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, for his amendment and his explanation. I remain puzzled by the Government’s view on this, because I...

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Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 June 2019
Reference
798 cc723-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is plain in the fundamental Act that you can be punished by a fine only if you fail to answer a question which you are required to answer, or if you give false information in answering such a question. Therefore, if the question is not compulsory, there...

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Lord Mackay of Clashfern (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 June 2019
Reference
798 cc724-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my noble and learned friend’s amendment goes a long way to protect the public from some of the ambiguities of these questions. If the question is optional and one does not need to answer it, one does not have to resolve the ambiguities, which are considerable on both...

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Baroness O'Neill of Bengarve (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 June 2019
Reference
798 c725
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to differ with the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge: I think these are riveting matters. This debate has shown exactly why that is so, because they are not easy. I am very glad that he has in effect gone back to what some of us...

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Baroness Barker (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 June 2019
Reference
798 cc725-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I came here this afternoon intending to support my noble and learned friend Lord Judge. However, something said by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Clashfern—who also had the sagacity to promote me—has given me a slight worry. I was going to support my noble and...

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Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 June 2019
Reference
798 c726
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, for tabling his amendments, and thank all those who have taken part in this debate. I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, that the census is an important civic event; we should all discharge our responsibilities and complete...

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Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 June 2019
Reference
798 cc726-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to everyone who has spoken today. I shall not put down an amendment to an amendment but, when we come to look at this matter again, we could add “or if you give any false answer” after “if you fail to do so”. That should...

Member
Lord Judge (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 June 2019
Reference
798 c727
House
House of Lords

Lords report stage. Amendment 1 debated and withdrawn. Amendment 2 not moved.

Lead member
Lord Judge
Answering member
Lord Young of Cookham
Department
Cabinet Office
Type
Debates on bills
Date
18 June 2019
Reference
798 cc722-9
House
House of Lords

Letter dated 10/06/2019 from Lord Young of Cookham to Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town regarding points raised in the Census (Return Particulars and Removal of Penalties) Bill debate: promotion of the 2021 Census and the veterans question in the Census. 2p.

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Whips Office (Lords)
Type
Deposited papers
Date
10 June 2019
Reference
DEP2019-0631
House
House of Lords

Lords committee stage. Clauses 1 to 4 agreed to. Bill reported without amendment.

Lead member
Lord Young of Cookham
Department
Cabinet Office
Type
Debates on bills; Committee proceedings
Date
4 June 2019
Reference
798 cc1-12GC
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Barker

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 6, at end insert—

“( ) In section 3 (regulations with respect to proceedings for taking census), after subsection (1)(f) insert —

“(fa) providing guidance on how the particulars relating to sex and gender identity should be answered, including —

(i) whether this should be...

Member
Baroness Barker (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 June 2019
Reference
798 c1GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is good to be back on this small but none the less important Bill. After Second Reading, I found myself reflecting on the importance of the census. I listened carefully to what the noble Baroness, Lady Finn, said about the fact that these days there are many...

Member
Baroness Barker (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 June 2019
Reference
798 cc1-2GC
House
House of Lords

I have very little to add. I concur absolutely and reinforce the importance of the census, not just as a purely numerical thing but as rather more. I am sure the Minister will not have heeded too much the pleas of one of his predecessors, the noble Lord, Lord Maude,...

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Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 June 2019
Reference
798 cc2-3GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I begin by thanking the noble Baronesses, Lady Barker and Lady Hayter, for their amendments. I agree with what the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, said about the census. It is an important civic event and we recognise it as exactly that. The amendments relate to the guidance on...

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Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 June 2019
Reference
798 cc3-5GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister very much for that—does he wish to add a further point?

Member
Baroness Barker (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 June 2019
Reference
798 c5GC
House
House of Lords

I have received some in-flight refuelling about the pertinent question the noble Baroness asked about the campaign and publicity. She is absolutely right that we have to inform people about what is happening. The ONS will undertake a national campaign as well as local campaigns. It has been working closely...

Member
Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 June 2019
Reference
798 c5GC
House
House of Lords

I thank the Minister for that; it is extremely helpful. It reflects, albeit in a condensed form, a longer and rather more detailed conversation that we had about these matters.

I stress that this is not only an important matter of civic engagement. As officials from the ONS have been at...

Member
Baroness Barker (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 June 2019
Reference
798 c5GC
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Judge

2: Clause 1, page 1, line 8, at end insert—

“( ) In section 8 (penalties), after subsection (1A) insert—

“(1B) A person does not commit an offence if that person does not state any particulars with respect to sexual orientation or gender identity.””

Member
Lord Judge (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 June 2019
Reference
798 c5GC
House
House of Lords