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Financial Guidance and Claims Bill (HL) 2017-19

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Government amendments to clause 24, discussed with new clause 7 (Regulatory principles to be applied in respect of claims management services), agreed to. Clause 24 agreed to. Schedule 4 agreed to. Government amendments to schedule 5 agreed to. Schedule 5 agreed to as amended. Clause 25 agreed to. Government amendment...

Lead member
John Glen; Guy Opperman
Answering member
Jack Dromey
Department
Department for Work and Pensions; Treasury
Type
Debates on bills; Public Bill Committee proceedings
Committee
Financial Guidance and Claims Bill (HL) Committee
Date
6 February 2018
House
House of Commons

May I say on behalf of those on the Scottish National party Benches what a pleasure it is to see you back in the Chair where you belong, Mr Deputy Speaker? Welcome back.

I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak for the SNP in this debate, and I should...

Member
Neil Gray (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 cc57-9
House
House of Commons

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

The Bill will reform the current financial guidance service landscape to improve outcomes for people in their everyday lives. It will bring about two changes. First, it will restructure the financial guidance landscape for members of the public...

Member
Esther McVey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c37
House
House of Commons

It is vital that we all work across party lines on financial guidance. I encourage the Secretary of State to place on the new financial guidance body a duty to promote financial resilience. Every year in Britain, 2 million people have unforeseen sickness absence. They cannot cope as their income...

Member
Chris Leslie (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c37
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. Once the new body is set up, it will be able to see what is needed in the public arena and shape and craft

what it does going forward. That is important, as is debt advice for vulnerable people, who need to be...

Member
Esther McVey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c37
House
House of Commons

The fact that household debt in this country now stands at £1.9 trillion shows just how important it is to give people knowledge and understanding about the management of their finances. I welcome the Bill. Will the Secretary of State assure us that it will help constituents such as mine...

Member
Rebecca Pow (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c38
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend raises a very good point about how to help those who are most vulnerable—how to help them to get out of debt. Debts are at high levels, but they are lower than they were in the first quarter of 2010. The latest figures, in the third quarter...

Member
Esther McVey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c38
House
House of Commons

rose—

Member
Gareth Thomas (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c38
House
House of Commons

rose—

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Lord McCabe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c38
House
House of Commons

If I can make a bit progress, I will take some more interventions.

Old Mutual Wealth has noted that consolidating the Money Advice Service, the Pension Advisory Service and Pension Wise into a single financial guidance body presents an opportunity materially to improve the quality and reach of Government-led primarily industry-funded...

Member
Esther McVey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c38
House
House of Commons

I am very grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way. As she seems to be acknowledging, the evidence suggests that too many people do not have sufficient knowledge to make the best choices about their pensions. On that basis, does she agree that it is important that the...

Member
Lord McCabe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c38
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman raises a very good point. Different people glean information through different channels, so a website works for some and telephones work for others, and there will be a need for face-to-face advice. At the moment, that is being offered through the citizens advice bureaux. Therefore, he is...

Member
Esther McVey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c39
House
House of Commons

One big problem with information for ordinary people is that it is complex. Will right hon. Lady give us an assurance that any information or advice that is being given is in simple language that people can understand? That is always the big difficulty with lots of forms—people just do...

Member
Jim Cunningham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c39
House
House of Commons

Again, a valid point—the advice has to be impartial, free and in a language that people understand. Sometimes people might not feel confident to say that they do not understand the terminology, because they think that there is a presumed knowledge that might not be there. I concur with what...

Member
Esther McVey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c39
House
House of Commons

Further to the question asked by the hon. Member for Taunton Deane (Rebecca Pow) about the rise in household debt, does the Secretary of State accept that there is a particular problem with household debt generated by high-cost credit lenders, such as BrightHouse? Under clause 10, the Financial Conduct Authority...

Member
Gareth Thomas (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c39
House
House of Commons

First, debt is not rising. It has actually fallen over the past eight years, but it is still too high. This new body will offer guidance and advice, so that people understand what loans they are taking out and, fundamentally, what paying them back will mean for them. Secondly, we...

Member
Esther McVey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 cc39-40
House
House of Commons

Further to the point that the hon. Member for Nottingham East (Mr Leslie) made about financial resilience, is the Secretary of State aware that household debt as a proportion of household income rose from 93% to a peak of 157% in 2008, under the previous Government? Does not that demonstrate...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c40
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend makes a good point. Household debt rocketed under the previous Labour Government, and we are now ensuring that it comes down, because it is still too high. I particularly appreciate that the Bill has cross-party support, because we all know that we need to help people who...

Member
Esther McVey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c40
House
House of Commons

Has the Minister considered whether the breathing space will apply to public as well as private sector debts, because many people find that they are pursued more vigorously by those creditors?

Member
Yvonne Fovargue (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c40
House
House of Commons

While looking at this respite, we are having a call for evidence to determine how best to proceed, and no doubt the hon. Lady’s point will be raised.

Member
Esther McVey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2018
Reference
635 c40
House
House of Commons