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Second reading. Motion withdrawn. Bill withdrawn.

Lead member
Christopher Chope
Answering member
Rob Wilson
Department
Cabinet Office
Type
Debates on bills
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 cc1266-1284
House
House of Commons

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

I hope that this Bill will shortly be made redundant, because if we leave the European Union we will have no more European Parliament elections. We will then be able to centre our democracy on this Parliament, rather...

Member
Christopher Chope (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1268
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend agree that the allegiance of those elected to the European Parliament is to their party or group in that Parliament, not their national Governments?

Member
Sheryll Murray (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1268
House
House of Commons

I am not sure that I do; if that is the situation, it is very unsatisfactory. Members of the European Parliament should be elected to represent their constituents, just as we are, but as soon as people become European Commissioners, they have to give up their allegiance to their home...

Member
Christopher Chope (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1268
House
House of Commons

That system also seems to work here, which I think is wrong.

Member
Bob Stewart (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1269
House
House of Commons

It can work here, although my hon. Friend should remember the courageous move made by the hon. Member for Clacton (Mr Carswell). He said he did not wish to carry on as a Conservative Member and wanted to change his party allegiance. Before doing that, however, he sought the endorsement...

Member
Christopher Chope (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1269
House
House of Commons

As has been correctly said, the system of proportional representation that we now have for the European Parliament elections was first introduced in 1999, and one of its key hallmarks is the fact that it is a closed regional list system. It is also worth noting that there is a...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 cc1269-1270
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to my hon. Friend the Member for Christchurch (Mr Chope) for once again bringing to the House the issue of the voting system for European parliamentary elections. A similar Bill was debated in the final Session of the previous Parliament, so this is a good opportunity to...

Member
Rob Wilson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 cc1270-1
House
House of Commons

My concern is that the real electorate of MEPs are the members of their party. People spend their time canvassing at party meetings, trying to garner support so that their party will put them one or two places up the list or at the top of it. That is a...

Member
Bob Stewart (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1271
House
House of Commons

That is clearly one of the criticisms made of the system. In any debate we would need to think about that carefully and take it into account as part of any changes. There is of course some substance in what my hon. Friend says. I will address some of those...

Member
Rob Wilson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1271
House
House of Commons

In all honesty and generosity, I say to the Minister that if the Government wish to alter their timetable for constitutional and political change—for example, to ditch the proposition about new parliamentary boundaries for the next election—we would be more than amenable to supporting this change to the electoral system...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1272
House
House of Commons

I note the hon. Gentleman’s comment, but I do not think we will be taking him up on his offer in the near future. The Government made a number of manifesto pledges in this area, and we are going to deliver on our pledges, including on all those involving electoral...

Member
Rob Wilson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1272
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend said that in the 2011 referendum the people of the United Kingdom overwhelmingly endorsed the first past the post system. Does he share my regret that the European Union is now preventing us from being able to reintroduce first past the post for European Parliament elections? What...

Member
Christopher Chope (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1272
House
House of Commons

As my hon. Friend will know, this country agreed to change the electoral system at European level from first past the post, and having done so, it would be fairly disingenuous for the Government to go back on it at this stage. Although we may move to another system, we...

Member
Rob Wilson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 cc1272-3
House
House of Commons

I feel convinced that in years to come the Minister’s speech today will be studied as part of constitutional history and will be the reference point. It is a magnificent piece of work. May I tell him that in Northern Ireland the reason why we use the alternative vote, why...

Member
Stephen Pound (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1273
House
House of Commons

That is the first time I have heard of the Droop quotient. Obviously, it is something the hon. Gentleman is very familiar with. We are not proposing to restore first past the post at European elections. This is a debate about a closed and an open system for candidates, so...

Member
Rob Wilson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 cc1273-4
House
House of Commons

Will the Minister give way?

Member
Stephen Pound (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1274
House
House of Commons

I will in one minute.

There is no threshold of votes that a party or candidate must achieve to win a seat in a region. The seats are assigned to party candidates according to the order in which the candidates are displayed on the ballot paper. That order is predetermined by...

Member
Rob Wilson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1274
House
House of Commons

I am sorry to interrupt the hon. Gentleman’s flow, but he mentioned Scotland, England and Wales. Did I miss his mention of Northern Ireland?

Member
Stephen Pound (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1274
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman must have done, because I mentioned Northern Ireland earlier in respect of the single transferable vote.

Member
Rob Wilson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2016
Reference
606 c1274
House
House of Commons