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My Lords, I shall start my remarks by addressing Amendment 13. This amendment seeks to exclude from the Bill treatments that involve the insertion or injection of cells, tissues or other biologically derived material into the body of a patient. The Government do not consider this amendment to be necessary....

Member
Baroness Jolly (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 cc2048-2050
House
House of Lords

My noble friend has helpfully explained the Government’s position regarding the new amendments tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Saatchi. I support his amendments. What I am unclear about is whether any special provision has been made for the risks of mental health which were raised in Committee. Does the...

Member
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2035
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Winston

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 3, at end insert—

“( ) The provisions of this Act shall not apply where a doctor, in the pursuit of a treatment, is required to take action where time or place does not allow the required consultation.”

Member
Lord Winston (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2021
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in moving Amendment 1, I wish to speak also to Amendment 6. The Bill states that for the purposes of taking a responsible decision to depart from existing treatment, a doctor must,

“obtain the views of one or more … qualified doctors in relation to the proposed treatment”,

and there...

Member
Lord Winston (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 cc2021-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Winston, providing for a number of medical treatments to be excluded from the Bill. As I said at Second Reading, I have always encouraged innovation and I listened to the examples given by the noble Lord...

Member
Lord Colwyn (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 cc2024-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am pleased that many of the amendments that I and others proposed in Committee have now appeared in one form or another in the amendments before us. I presume that they are acceptable to the noble Lord, Lord Saatchi—many are in his name—and to the Government. May...

Member
Lord Turnberg (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 cc2025-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I do not really understand the proceedings, in so far as the noble Lord, Lord Winston, spoke only to two of his amendments. These are all grouped together. I have just consulted with the clerk, but they should really have all been covered. I do not know whether...

Member
Baroness Gardner of Parkes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2026
House
House of Lords

Before the noble Baroness sits down, I wanted, for clarity, to speak to two amendments at a time. I will speak to Amendment 13 in due course and say exactly what I meant. If the noble Baroness wishes me to speak to those amendments now I will do so.

Member
Lord Winston (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2026
House
House of Lords

I am very happy to speak to those amendments now. They are very simple. The question of the dental practitioner is simply that dental practitioners also are involved in maxillofacial surgery and other treatments that may require innovation. With regard to other practitioners who are not medically registered, we are...

Member
Lord Winston (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2027
House
House of Lords

I support Amendments 1 and 6 —the latter because I speak as someone who has spent much of his life studying innovation. I recognise that the backdrop to this Bill is the massive acceleration of innovation in some core areas of medicine, so the point is to try to bridge...

Member
Lord Giddens (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2027
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as far as Amendment 1 is concerned, I think that the later amendment tabled by my noble friend Lord Saatchi has the same effect. Amendment 1 is very clear on the matter, and I think that it has been the law that emergency treatments are dealt with in...

Member
Lord Mackay of Clashfern (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 cc2027-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as this is the first contribution from the Front Bench to the discussion of today’s amendments, perhaps I may again place on the record our support for the key principles and intent of the Bill. As we stress, Labour has always strongly supported efforts to bring innovative treatments...

Member
Baroness Wheeler (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 cc2028-2030
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I hope that I will be forgiven for not speaking before the noble Baroness, Lady Wheeler, addressed the House. Unfortunately, she responded more quickly than me in getting to her feet; thus, we have this order. The progress of the Bill has been a remarkable example of this...

Member
Lord Woolf (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 cc2030-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I think that it would help the House if the government Whip could advise noble Lords on whether the appropriate time for Members of your Lordships’ House to speak to all the amendments in this group is now or later. At the moment, people are unaware of whether...

Member
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2031
House
House of Lords

It is very kind of the Front Bench to offer that possibility. If I were to degroup an amendment, I would degroup the stem cell one and put it with Amendment 5, as it would fit better with patient safety. One of my difficulties is that the groupings are slightly...

Member
Lord Winston (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2032
House
House of Lords

My understanding of the groupings system is that those who have views on the amendments should take the opportunity to speak when the relevant group is first dealt with, but it does not preclude a noble Lord who has tabled an amendment speaking when the amendment is called in the...

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Lord Mackay of Clashfern (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2032
House
House of Lords

Perhaps I may raise a point. When you table an amendment, you are usually sent a draft list of the groupings. You are asked whether you are happy with that or whether you want your amendment to be grouped separately. I wonder why that has not happened in this case.

Member
Baroness Gardner of Parkes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2032
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this group of amendments relates to the scope of the Bill. As noble Lords are aware, the Bill relates to a decision by a doctor to depart from the existing range of accepted medical treatments for a condition. I make it clear that

the Bill applies not to...

Member
Baroness Jolly (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 cc2032-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am waiting for confirmation from the Box on the mental health issue. If the noble Lord will be patient, I believe something is coming. The answer is no, but under a special provision doctors can choose. I hope that is clear to the noble Lord.

Member
Baroness Jolly (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2035
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thought that it had been agreed that Amendment 13 would be grouped with Amendment 5, so the noble Lord needs to respond to it then.

Member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 December 2014
Reference
757 c2038
House
House of Lords