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Date
30 October 2007
Reference
CHAP 27 2007

My Lords, like the Minister, I rise for the first time on this Bill. Clearly, a lot of water has passed under many bridges since this started and we are arriving in port today. The point raised by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd, on the admissibility of intercept...

Member
Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1079
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 32. Before I get into the body of the commentary on these amendments, I ought first to apologise to the House for the fact that this amendment was not brought forward during...

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Lord Bassam of Brighton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1087-90
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome the consensus over the fact that a committee of the Privy Council is looking at this very complex issue. I think that there have been seven previous major studies into it. I thank my noble and learned friend Lord Boyd of Duncansby for mentioning the difference...

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Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1081-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 2 to 31. This group deals with a number of amendments relating to serious crime prevention orders. The amendments touch on the following matters. Amendment No. 2 relates to appeals in relation...

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Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1086-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I was unavoidably absent from the discussions that took place in this House in February and April of this year, although I have read the reports carefully. I join in paying tribute to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd. I welcome the fact that a committee of...

Member
Lord Elystan-Morgan (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1080-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, does the Minister agree that one issue that we have to face is teasing out intercept for intelligence purposes from intercept for criminal purposes, and that one of the strengths of the British system has been the close co-operation between intelligence and criminal investigation agencies? In answer to...

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Lord Boyd of Duncansby (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1081
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will not rehearse all the arguments that have been made ad infinitum in this House about whether intercept material should be used as evidence in court. However, given the statements of the noble Baroness, Lady Hanham, and the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, I do not think that...

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Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1079-80
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am an old lag in this; I have been through it all not once but on many occasions. We are very grateful that the Government have given way to the pressure exerted on them by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd, who has consistently put forward...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1079
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the Commons amendments be now considered. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to. [The page and line references are to Bill 103 as first printed for the Commons.] 1: Leave out Clause 4

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1078
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 1. As noble Lords will know, this will be the first time that I stand before the House to discuss this Bill. I understand from the Attorney-General, my noble and learned friend...

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1078-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 44 to 48. Moved, That the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 44 to 48.—(Lord Bassam of Brighton.) On Question, Motion agreed to. 49: Page 43, line 34,...

Member
Lord Bassam of Brighton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1115
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 43. Moved, That the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 43.—(Lord West of Spithead.) [Amendment No. 43A not moved.] On Question, Motion agreed to. 44: Page 43, line...

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Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1115
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I shall address some of the points that were raised. First, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Marlesford, for his contribution to the debate. It has been extremely valuable and has made us look again at the issue. We talked to ACPO about the various measures and spoke...

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Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1113-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 38 to 41. This is part of a larger group of technical amendments which, in the main, make further practical changes to the Proceeds of Crime Act. They are technical in nature,...

Member
Lord Bassam of Brighton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1107-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 42. This grouping concerns police powers of stop and search for dangerous instruments and offensive weapons. Amendment No. 42 extends the stop-and-search powers contained in the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act...

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Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1108-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I take up the Minister’s very kind invitation. Will he direct his attention to paragraph (2) in the amendment? Can he explain to me now, or in writing, subparagraphs (2)(a), (b) and (c)? I am fascinated by the references to ““the Information Commissioner”” and, "““such other persons as...

Member
Lord Lyell (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1102
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I dread to get into the detail of the finer points of our relationships with our colleagues north of the border, but I understand that our relationships are in good order. Perhaps I will take up the noble Lord’s offer of providing him with a note on these...

Member
Lord Bassam of Brighton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1102-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, from these Benches I also congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Marlesford, on his fight to widen the security and safety of the ordinary citizen. His original amendment, which we supported, has the great benefit of simplicity; he managed to encapsulate in short order all the necessary ingredients. We...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1113
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I hope that I am not gravely out of order—and would certainly never normally dream of following the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford—but I would be grateful if the Minister could clarify two points that he referred to in his remarks. The first was the timing of...

Member
Lord Lyell (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 October 2007
Reference
695 c1113
House
House of Lords