Road Safety Bill (HL). Consideration of Commons amendments. Amendment 1 disagreed to on division (129 to 101). Amendments 2-4 agreed to. Amendment 5 disagreed to, and amendment proposed in lieu, on division (112 to 96). Amendment 6 disagreed to on division (104 to 89). Amendments 7-15 agreed to. Motion to disagree with Commons amendment 16 disagreed to on division (72 to 81). Commons amendments 17-25 agreed to. Amendment 26, privilege amendment, agreed to. Amendments 27-34 agreed to. Committee appointed to propose reasons for disagreeing to Commons amendments. Reasons reported and agreed to. Bill returned to Commons with reasons and amendments.

Road Safety Bill (HL). Consideration of Commons amendments. Amendment 1 disagreed to on division (129 to 101). Amendments 2-4 agreed to. Amendment 5 disagreed to, and amendment proposed in lieu, on division (112 to 96). Amendment 6 disagreed to on division (104 to 89). Amendments 7-15 agreed to. Motion to...

: My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 7 to 10. Section 89 of the Road Traffic Act (tests of competence to drive) enables the Secretary of State to make regulations about tests of competence to drive. Section 89(3)(b)...

: My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 7 to 10. Section 89 of the Road Traffic Act (tests of competence to drive) enables the Secretary of State to make regulations about tests of competence to drive. Section 89(3)(b)...

My Lords, would the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, like to see a train driver banned from driving if he skidded his train for about 50 metres?

My Lords, would the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, like to see a train driver banned from driving if he skidded his train for about 50 metres?

My Lords, I know of a case involving a particular train driver. One of his kids was ill. He was driving a train and he had forgotten to switch off his mobile phone. He got a call from the hospital. An inspector was with him in the cab. The driver...

My Lords, I know of a case involving a particular train driver. One of his kids was ill. He was driving a train and he had forgotten to switch off his mobile phone. He got a call from the hospital. An inspector was with him in the cab. The driver...

My Lords, I support everything said by my noble friend Lord Berkeley and I shall not repeat it. I have also listened carefully to other noble Lords. One Monday evening at twenty to nine I had a father. At a quarter to nine I did not have a father because...

My Lords, I support everything said by my noble friend Lord Berkeley and I shall not repeat it. I have also listened carefully to other noble Lords. One Monday evening at twenty to nine I had a father. At a quarter to nine I did not have a father because...

My Lords, I am slightly puzzled about how the decision is made on which charge will be brought against a driver. If, for example, as in cases that we read about all the time, a driver backing out of his garage tragically kills his own much-loved child who somehow has...

My Lords, I am slightly puzzled about how the decision is made on which charge will be brought against a driver. If, for example, as in cases that we read about all the time, a driver backing out of his garage tragically kills his own much-loved child who somehow has...

My Lords, is the Minister really saying that if the Government believe an injustice is likely to be done he does not have to give his mind to it? I can quite understand if he gives his mind to it and says, ““No, we believe this is right””, but to...

My Lords, is the Minister really saying that if the Government believe an injustice is likely to be done he does not have to give his mind to it? I can quite understand if he gives his mind to it and says, ““No, we believe this is right””, but to...

My Lords, I am dealing with the amendment before the House. It is not for me to enter into conjecture about what might be done at future stages. If noble Lords went into the Lobby on the basis that there is a broad intention to which they subscribe but aware...

My Lords, I am dealing with the amendment before the House. It is not for me to enter into conjecture about what might be done at future stages. If noble Lords went into the Lobby on the basis that there is a broad intention to which they subscribe but aware...

My Lords, the Minister puts great weight on the decision reached by PACTS, which does an awful lot of good work. But how was the decision arrived at? Was it a decision reached by a vote of all the PACTS members? I attend meetings of the council, but I have...

My Lords, the Minister puts great weight on the decision reached by PACTS, which does an awful lot of good work. But how was the decision arrived at? Was it a decision reached by a vote of all the PACTS members? I attend meetings of the council, but I have...

My Lords, as anticipated, this has been an interesting debate and it would be difficult for me to reply without undue length to every single point. On the question put by the noble Baroness, the circumstances she has identified would invite a series of other potential charges beyond careless driving....

My Lords, as anticipated, this has been an interesting debate and it would be difficult for me to reply without undue length to every single point. On the question put by the noble Baroness, the circumstances she has identified would invite a series of other potential charges beyond careless driving....

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the Minister. If the House were persuaded by the arguments that a prison sentence was inappropriate for careless driving, is it within its procedural power on the ping pong to come back with a clause which would reflect that? I believe it is.

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the Minister. If the House were persuaded by the arguments that a prison sentence was inappropriate for careless driving, is it within its procedural power on the ping pong to come back with a clause which would reflect that? I believe it is.

My Lords, it is not for me to go into the decision-making processes of groups such as PACTS, but let me say that it enjoys a high reputation because its members support what it does and the Government take seriously representations from that source. I sought to disabuse noble Lords...

My Lords, it is not for me to go into the decision-making processes of groups such as PACTS, but let me say that it enjoys a high reputation because its members support what it does and the Government take seriously representations from that source. I sought to disabuse noble Lords...

My Lords, I looked this up to see what happened. I do not know whether the Minister saw what happened, but the Chairman at the time simply asked whether Amendments Nos. 5 to 8 were not moved, and someone replied, ““Not moved””. That was plainly not in accordance with the...

My Lords, I looked this up to see what happened. I do not know whether the Minister saw what happened, but the Chairman at the time simply asked whether Amendments Nos. 5 to 8 were not moved, and someone replied, ““Not moved””. That was plainly not in accordance with the...

My Lords, we are coming back on the substantive issues, but we are where we are. I described to the House the effect of the amendment that was passed and the change to the Bill that the other place then considered. The noble and learned Lord disagreed with the Government...

My Lords, we are coming back on the substantive issues, but we are where we are. I described to the House the effect of the amendment that was passed and the change to the Bill that the other place then considered. The noble and learned Lord disagreed with the Government...

My Lords, I beg to move, That the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 6. The House will recall that we discussed this issue at considerable length when we first considered the Bill. An amendment was made to Clause 20 to the effect that, where the...

My Lords, I beg to move, That the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 6. The House will recall that we discussed this issue at considerable length when we first considered the Bill. An amendment was made to Clause 20 to the effect that, where the...

My Lords, I have listened carefully to some of the speakers on the Opposition Benches. I take from this that the definition of ““careless”” is that it is just a momentary lapse; that it does not really matter; that we are all careless at some stages in our lives; and...

My Lords, I have listened carefully to some of the speakers on the Opposition Benches. I take from this that the definition of ““careless”” is that it is just a momentary lapse; that it does not really matter; that we are all careless at some stages in our lives; and...

My Lords, I think that the noble Earl, Lord Attlee, said that certain pressure groups have an axe to grind. I do not have an axe to grind, but noble Lords will recall that among various things that I do I am heavily involved with the traffic police. I have...

My Lords, I think that the noble Earl, Lord Attlee, said that certain pressure groups have an axe to grind. I do not have an axe to grind, but noble Lords will recall that among various things that I do I am heavily involved with the traffic police. I have...

My Lords, however well it may play with a section of the tabloid press, the Government’s plan to send still more people to prison in a week when the British prison population has reached an all-time high is surely the height of folly. At this rate, we will need not...

My Lords, however well it may play with a section of the tabloid press, the Government’s plan to send still more people to prison in a week when the British prison population has reached an all-time high is surely the height of folly. At this rate, we will need not...

My Lords, I have always been grateful to the Minister and his colleagues for the courtesy with which they have accepted my opposition to this Bill and the help that they have given me in meeting Ministers, Home Office officials and the families of those whose genuine bereavement and upset...

My Lords, I have always been grateful to the Minister and his colleagues for the courtesy with which they have accepted my opposition to this Bill and the help that they have given me in meeting Ministers, Home Office officials and the families of those whose genuine bereavement and upset...

My Lords, I continue to be unnerved by the issue of intent and therefore must continue to oppose the Government’s position.

My Lords, I continue to be unnerved by the issue of intent and therefore must continue to oppose the Government’s position.