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Statistics and Registration Service Bill. Commons Reasons and amendments considered. Lords amendments 1 to 9, 21 to 30, 40 to 64 and 66 not insisted on; Commons amendments in lieu agreed to. Lords amendments 10 and 14 not insisted on by division (143 votes to 144). Lords amendments 12, 13,...

Department
Treasury
Type
Debates on bills
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1234-62
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I certainly support my noble friend on this. We have referred to it already today, but I want to call attention again to the Statement on constitutional reform made by the Prime Minister last week. His very first sentence in another place was: "““All Members of this House...

Member
Lord Jenkin of Roding (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1241-2
House
House of Lords

moved, as an amendment to Motion B, leave out from ““House”” to end, and insert ““do insist on its Amendments Nos. 10 and 14””. The noble Baroness said: My Lords, Amendment No. 10 inserted a requirement for the board to monitor the arrangements for the release and pre-release of statistics....

Member
Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1240-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, for not having risen earlier, but I wanted to check something that the Minister said about the hub. Although I got his letter on Saturday, I have not had a chance yet to commit it to memory. He said that...

Member
Lord Newby (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1242-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support what the noble Lord, Lord Newby, said. Our Amendments Nos. 10 and 14 do not seem in any way detrimental. I do not think that the Minister produced an argument that there was any detriment; he argued simply that the amendments may not be necessary. We...

Member
Viscount Eccles (Conservative; Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1243
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move, That this House do not insist on its Amendments Nos. 10 and 14, to which the Commons have disagreed for their reasons 10A and 14A. These amendments relate to the important issue of how and when statistics are released under the new system and...

Member
Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1239-40
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in introducing this large group of amendments, the Minister said that the question of residual responsibility was less important now that there was to be proper scrutiny by Parliament. Here I am echoing a point made by my noble friend Lady Noakes: will this be done by a...

Member
Lord Jenkin of Roding (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1236-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we are pleased that the Government have decided to accept the spirit of the amendments passed on this issue. During the discussions of this Bill in your Lordships’ House, we have sought to persuade the Government that four issues of principle needed addressing satisfactorily in the Bill, of...

Member
Lord Newby (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1236
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that introduction and am glad that he mentioned the Prime Minister’s Statement last week. Two policy announcements were made then, one of which related to 24 hours’ pre-release and the other to the confirmatory vote in the House of Commons—or that is what...

Member
Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1236
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move, That this House do not insist on its Amendments Nos. 1 to 9, 21 to 30, 40 to 64 and 66, and do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 66A to 66QQQ in lieu. The amendments are all concerned with where residual...

Member
Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1234-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the Commons amendments and reasons be now considered. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to. [The page and line references are to Bill 53 as first printed for the Lords.] 1: Clause 3, page 2, line 3, leave out ““Treasury”” and insert...

Member
Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1234
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who contributed to this short debate. I particularly thank the noble Lord, Lord Moser, for his small historical contribution, which enlightened us all. I am grateful that he and the noble Lord, Lord Newby, are delighted that the Government have moved on this....

Member
Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1237-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome the Government’s acceptance in principle of this amendment, so that ultimate responsibility for what are now called the residual responsibilities will go back to the Cabinet Office. I remind your Lordships of a nice historical point. When Winston Churchill established the first statistics office in 1941,...

Member
Lord Moser (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1237
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this short debate. The noble Lord, Lord Davies of Oldham, said that he did not think the Bill should be overly prescriptive. I do not think that the amendments that are the subject of the Motion are overly...

Member
Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1245-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate—in particular, the noble Lord, Lord Moser, who paid tribute to a number of parties, including the Statistics Commission. I associate myself with those remarks. The Minister referred to the commitments made at the Dispatch Box about the...

Member
Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1259
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this has been an interesting debate and was all the better for being put in historical context by the noble Lord, Lord Moser. I thank him for his kind words about fellow Ministers’ efforts and the extent to which the Government have sought to adopt a sharing role...

Member
Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1257-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the issue of pre-release has been with us throughout these debates. I support the amendment proposed by the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes, and I shall explain how it fits into the context of the Bill as a whole. The whole thing started back in November 2005, when the...

Member
Lord Moser (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1252-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we, too, welcome the fact that the Government have moved considerably on the norm for the pre-release access that Ministers would have to government statistics. Given that the period proposed fell from 40.5 to 24 hours in the course of a day, if that trend had continued last...

Member
Lord Newby (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1255-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I hope I am right in thinking that at this stage we are simply discussing release arrangements and not pre-release. On those, I ally myself completely with the remarks of the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes. The idea of the hub is a good development in that it would...

Member
Lord Moser (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1242
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords who have contributed to this debate; it reflected the contention of the Government: we are against being overly prescriptive about the hub and the board because, as the noble Lord, Lord Newby, said, in certain areas its obligations might go beyond national...

Member
Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 July 2007
Reference
693 c1243-5
House
House of Lords