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I am sorry to be a bit cold waterish about the amendment, particularly as I strongly support the principles behind it. Noble Lords might think that as a former employee of a regulator I would welcome this very handy tool, but I think that so-called Henry VIII provisions are to...

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Baroness Whitaker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c202GC
House
House of Lords

I do not think that the parallel with emergency powers holds good because we are in the middle of a very considered process here which will involve a lot of people having their say, and I should have thought they would want to do that. The noble Lord is right,...

Member
Baroness Andrews (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c204-5GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, there is an instance of this having being done on the emergency powers Bill. Draft regulations can be published, debated in both Houses and amended before they are finalised. Even if that were not the case, the Clerks have informed me—I took the trouble to check this with...

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Lord Dixon-Smith (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c204GC
House
House of Lords

This amendment, in the context of Welsh housing, probes the extent of the Bill and the separation between the functions of the regulator in England and the Welsh Minister in Wales. It would help if I set out clearly the position on the territorial extent of Part 2 of the...

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Baroness Andrews (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c207-8GC
House
House of Lords

““Functions”” includes ““powers””; I was using the words interchangeably as I spoke. I may well be able to offer the noble Baroness a written list of powers/functions that will fall into this category. I am very happy to do that.

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Baroness Andrews (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c209GC
House
House of Lords

I sympathise with the proposal but add a word of caution. I heard what the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, said, and there is clearly a problem, but the people who bought the properties presumably thought that they were escaping from the inclusiveness of the original arrangement. If we do this,...

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Lord Dixon-Smith (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c216GC
House
House of Lords

I have no objection to the clause standing part subject to the typos being corrected. A cross-reference has not been updated. I shall point it out afterwards. Clause 74 agreed to. Clauses 75 to 79 agreed to.

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Baroness Hamwee (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c214GC
House
House of Lords

I thank the Minister for that careful reply. It is probably true that these amendments are technically not up to the job that I would like them to do. However, the issues will not go away. They are fundamental to a great deal of this part of the Bill, particularly...

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Lord Greaves (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c213-4GC
House
House of Lords

My name is added to Amendments Nos. 111 and 112 which, at the very least, gives us the satisfaction of knowing that we already are talking about Clauses 274 and 275. I have nothing to add to the eloquent speech made by my noble friend Lord Graham, except to add...

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Lord Best (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c222GC
House
House of Lords

The poor noble Lord, Lord Bassam, is having a very hard time because we are all suspecting his motives before he has had a chance to defend himself. I, too, support this group of amendments. This subject has been hanging around for a long time. My noble friend Lord Cathcart...

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Lord Dixon-Smith (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c222-3GC
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 99: 99: Clause 80, page 37, line 38, after ““England,”” insert— ““( ) a community land trust (as defined in section 274),”” The noble Lord said: On Second Reading, I said that the community land trust was an idea whose time had come. My time has come...

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Lord Graham of Edmonton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c219-21GC
House
House of Lords

This is an important debate. I am grateful for the way in which it was opened, in competition, by the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, and the noble Earl, Lord Onslow. We had a productive meeting this morning, and I hope the noble Earl will forgive me, because these are complex...

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Baroness Andrews (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c228-9GC
House
House of Lords

The simple answer is that we have never considered that housing associations performed functions of a public nature in providing social housing. I shall come on to the contrast with the social care provision and the noble Earl will appreciate the point I shall make about the differences in those...

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Baroness Andrews (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c230-2GC
House
House of Lords

In Grand Committee, I have no alternative but to withdraw my amendment, but I want to make a couple of points. The distinction between public and private provision is interesting. However, there may perhaps be a particular regarding allocations where a local authority is dependent on nominations to a housing...

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Baroness Hamwee (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c233GC
House
House of Lords

It is very difficult to probe the reasons for something. The words, ““membership of the Housing Corporation shall qualify an individual for membership””, would have seemed odd. As I have said, I do not oppose this proposal, but I do not understand why it needs to be said. That is...

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Baroness Hamwee (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c236GC
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 101: 101: Clause 83, page 39, line 1, leave out ““3”” and insert ““6”” The noble Viscount said: I feel a bit as though I am coming down to Earth, so I shall start with a short anecdote about public appointments. I was deputy chairman of the...

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Viscount Eccles (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c234GC
House
House of Lords

Before I address whether Clause 87 should stand part of the Bill, I should say that, since we are expecting a vote, it is permissible to start a long group even though we will not finish it. We can legitimately stop wherever we are and resume on Monday. Once the...

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Baroness Andrews (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c243-4GC
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 102ZD: 102ZD: Clause 88, page 40, line 17, leave out subsection (1) and insert— ““(1) The regulator shall perform its functions in a manner which— (a) minimises interference, (b) is proportionate, consistent, transparent and accountable, (c) complies with any duty of the regulator under section 22 of...

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Earl Cathcart (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c244-5GC
House
House of Lords

I support what the noble Lord, Lord Best, said and the thrust of what the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, said. I shall not speak at length. It is an unusual and impressive situation that we have support from bodies like the Local Government Association and the National Federation of ALMOs,...

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Lord Filkin (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c200-1GC
House
House of Lords

The letter proposing the amendment to the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee, of which I am a member, arrived this morning; by chance we were having a meeting, as we frequently do on Wednesdays. The letter arrived just in time—I think that that would be the friendly way to...

Member
Viscount Eccles (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 June 2008
Reference
702 c209-10GC
House
House of Lords