Counter-Terrorism Bill. Lords Report stage first day. Amendments debated and withdrawn, one negatived on division (130 votes to 130). Other amendments debated and agreed to. Part 2 of 2 records.

Counter-Terrorism Bill. Lords Report stage first day. Amendments debated and withdrawn, one negatived on division (130 votes to 130). Other amendments debated and agreed to. Part 2 of 2 records.

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for that response. I still have some concern that a lot of this is being to left to, ““It’ll be all right on the night””, but I take the point that it is about the relationship between the offices of the law...

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for that response. I still have some concern that a lot of this is being to left to, ““It’ll be all right on the night””, but I take the point that it is about the relationship between the offices of the law...

My Lords, I welcome what the Minister has just said. Is there a programme to equip the police stations where the facilities are not available? It would be a good idea to avoid having to shift people around because the necessary facilities are not on the spot.

My Lords, I welcome what the Minister has just said. Is there a programme to equip the police stations where the facilities are not available? It would be a good idea to avoid having to shift people around because the necessary facilities are not on the spot.

moved Amendment No. 33: 33: Clause 29, page 21, line 24, after ““may”” insert ““, with the written consent of the relevant law officer,”” The noble Lord said: My Lords, we now move to Part 3 of the Bill. The amendments relate to the clause which allows that where an...

moved Amendment No. 33: 33: Clause 29, page 21, line 24, after ““may”” insert ““, with the written consent of the relevant law officer,”” The noble Lord said: My Lords, we now move to Part 3 of the Bill. The amendments relate to the clause which allows that where an...

moved Amendments Nos. 37 to 45: 37: Clause 45, page 32, line 37, after ““imprisonment”” insert ““or custody”” 38: Clause 45, page 32, line 38, after ““imprisonment”” insert ““or detention in a young offender institution”” 39: Clause 45, page 32, line 39, after ““imprisonment”” insert ““or detention in a young...

moved Amendments Nos. 37 to 45: 37: Clause 45, page 32, line 37, after ““imprisonment”” insert ““or custody”” 38: Clause 45, page 32, line 38, after ““imprisonment”” insert ““or detention in a young offender institution”” 39: Clause 45, page 32, line 39, after ““imprisonment”” insert ““or detention in a young...

moved Amendment No. 46: 46: Clause 53, page 38, line 38, leave out subsections (1) to (3) and insert— ““(1) The period for which the notification requirements apply is— (a) 30 years in the case of a person who— (i) is aged 18 or over at the time of conviction...

moved Amendment No. 46: 46: Clause 53, page 38, line 38, leave out subsections (1) to (3) and insert— ““(1) The period for which the notification requirements apply is— (a) 30 years in the case of a person who— (i) is aged 18 or over at the time of conviction...

My Lords, as the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd of Berwick, said, there was a lot of dissatisfaction in Committee about the structure of the Bill at that stage with regard to post-charge questioning. It is necessary to acknowledge the steps that the Government have taken to address those...

My Lords, as the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd of Berwick, said, there was a lot of dissatisfaction in Committee about the structure of the Bill at that stage with regard to post-charge questioning. It is necessary to acknowledge the steps that the Government have taken to address those...

My Lords, I respectfully suggest that there is not a world of difference between the amendment proposed by the noble Lord, Lord West, and that proposed by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd of Berwick. Both come from the same direction and starting point: that is, the horror with...

My Lords, I respectfully suggest that there is not a world of difference between the amendment proposed by the noble Lord, Lord West, and that proposed by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd of Berwick. Both come from the same direction and starting point: that is, the horror with...

My Lords, the particular paragraph (b) in the Government’s amendment that is the subject of the amendment in the name of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd, says: "““The judge … may impose such conditions as appear to be necessary in the interests of justice””." That allows the judge,...

My Lords, the particular paragraph (b) in the Government’s amendment that is the subject of the amendment in the name of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd, says: "““The judge … may impose such conditions as appear to be necessary in the interests of justice””." That allows the judge,...

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, has said, and as I made clear in Committee, the Lord Advocate has confirmed that she intends to issue guidelines on post-charge questioning and that they will be similar to those that the Lord Advocate issued on detention, treatment and questioning of...

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, has said, and as I made clear in Committee, the Lord Advocate has confirmed that she intends to issue guidelines on post-charge questioning and that they will be similar to those that the Lord Advocate issued on detention, treatment and questioning of...

moved Amendment No. 27: 27: Clause 26, page 19, leave out line 30 The noble Lord said: My Lords, the House will recall that the Bill included an order-making power which allowed the Secretary of State to disapply the compulsory requirement for post-charge questioning to be video recorded with sound,...

moved Amendment No. 27: 27: Clause 26, page 19, leave out line 30 The noble Lord said: My Lords, the House will recall that the Bill included an order-making power which allowed the Secretary of State to disapply the compulsory requirement for post-charge questioning to be video recorded with sound,...

moved Amendment No. 24: 24: Clause 25, page 18, line 29, leave out subsections (2) to (4) and insert— ““( ) A district judge (magistrates’ courts) may authorise the questioning of a person about an offence— (a) after the person has been charged with the offence or been officially informed...

moved Amendment No. 24: 24: Clause 25, page 18, line 29, leave out subsections (2) to (4) and insert— ““( ) A district judge (magistrates’ courts) may authorise the questioning of a person about an offence— (a) after the person has been charged with the offence or been officially informed...

My Lords, I should point out to noble Lords who are not familiar with Latin or Norman French that this is not another example of voir dire; the spelling is rather different. I shall be very brief in supporting the amendment. The case has been admirably set out by my...

My Lords, I should point out to noble Lords who are not familiar with Latin or Norman French that this is not another example of voir dire; the spelling is rather different. I shall be very brief in supporting the amendment. The case has been admirably set out by my...

My Lords, it is a privilege to follow two noble Lords with such experience in this area. I am taken back to the days of the voir dire, which led to a cottage industry in my profession. Particularly in Hong Kong, as I recall, six or seven weeks would be...

My Lords, it is a privilege to follow two noble Lords with such experience in this area. I am taken back to the days of the voir dire, which led to a cottage industry in my profession. Particularly in Hong Kong, as I recall, six or seven weeks would be...

My Lords, I support the amendment but I wish to make a couple of comments—one in defence of the police. It has absolutely not been my experience that they are in any way dilatory in interrogating terror suspects, which often involves the collation of vast amounts of information. They work...

My Lords, I support the amendment but I wish to make a couple of comments—one in defence of the police. It has absolutely not been my experience that they are in any way dilatory in interrogating terror suspects, which often involves the collation of vast amounts of information. They work...

My Lords, I am very pleased that the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, reminded the House that no judge has refused a police application. On the JCHR, we heard evidence of quite short periods of interrogation and of very long periods of languishing in cells during the extended time. I suspect...

My Lords, I am very pleased that the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, reminded the House that no judge has refused a police application. On the JCHR, we heard evidence of quite short periods of interrogation and of very long periods of languishing in cells during the extended time. I suspect...

My Lords, we support this important amendment. The noble and learned Lord said that the gap may be small, but it is important. There is a lacuna in the current system of real-time monitoring. The noble and learned Lord mentioned that the noble Lord, Lord Carlile of Berriew, reports annually...

My Lords, we support this important amendment. The noble and learned Lord said that the gap may be small, but it is important. There is a lacuna in the current system of real-time monitoring. The noble and learned Lord mentioned that the noble Lord, Lord Carlile of Berriew, reports annually...

moved, as an amendment to Amendment No. 6, Amendment No. 7: 7: Clause 23, line 13, after ““to”” insert— ““(i)”” The noble and learned Lord said: My Lords, the House may have gathered from what the Minister has said that in Committee there was no support for the Government’s proposals...

moved, as an amendment to Amendment No. 6, Amendment No. 7: 7: Clause 23, line 13, after ““to”” insert— ““(i)”” The noble and learned Lord said: My Lords, the House may have gathered from what the Minister has said that in Committee there was no support for the Government’s proposals...

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord and beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord and beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

My Lords, I do not have those statistics with me but shall certainly inform the noble Baroness of them in writing. Taken together with the post of the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation and the other safeguards which I will come on to in a minute, I believe that we...

My Lords, I do not have those statistics with me but shall certainly inform the noble Baroness of them in writing. Taken together with the post of the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation and the other safeguards which I will come on to in a minute, I believe that we...