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I, too, welcome the amendments. The Minister was right to trail them at Second Reading. They are essential, and I am very pleased to see them in the form in which they appear before the Committee this afternoon. I have a number of questions that the Minister may be able...

Member
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c12-4GC
House
House of Lords

I start by thanking both noble Lords for the enthusiasm with which they have received the amendments. The noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, asked whether we are jumping the gun because we have not worked out how this is going to work or whether it will require a change to the...

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c14-5GC
House
House of Lords

I am grateful for that. Of course, there will be occasions when one parent takes the child or children on holiday one year and not the next, and so on. One can realistically think of all sorts of variables which ought, in all fairness, to come into the calculation. I...

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Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c9GC
House
House of Lords

Currently, if there is a dispute or change in perceptions of whether the 52- or 104-night threshold is to change, then there is a request for a change in assessment and a recalculation. In many cases, that gives rise to a lot of disputes. Even when there is agreement, there...

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Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c8-9GC
House
House of Lords

The Minister trailed these provisions at Second Reading. Of course, it is absolutely right that CMEC should get all the information that it can without jeopardising the current rules of court. It will usually be the parent with care who releases the information, and it would be quite wrong if...

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Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c12GC
House
House of Lords

The noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, has something here. Amendment No. 207 refers to Part 4 of the Bill, which deals specifically with mesothelioma. The amendment requires that the first set of any regulations made under Part 4 would be subject to parliamentary scrutiny under the affirmative resolution procedure. At present,...

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c20GC
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 205: 205: Schedule 6, page 69, line 21, at end insert— ““( ) In this paragraph, ““contributions”” means contributions under Part 1 of the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992.”” On Question, amendment agreed to. [Amendment No. 206 not moved.] Schedule 6, as amended, agreed to....

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c15GC
House
House of Lords

moved Amendments Nos. 208 and 209: 208: Clause 52, page 42, line 31, after ““(4)”” insert ““, and no order may be made under section (Review of the status of the Commission)(6),”” 209: Clause 52, page 42, line 32, after ““regulations”” insert ““or order”” On Question, amendments agreed to. [Amendment...

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Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c21GC
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 219: 219: Clause 56, page 43, line 39, at end insert— ““( ) An order may be made under section 32I of the Child Support Act 1991 (c. 48) in respect of an amount even though the time within which an application could have been instituted under...

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c22GC
House
House of Lords

I shall make that unanimous. This is the first Committee stage in which I have really been involved, and it is astonishingly more detailed, instructive and valuable than such stages are in another place, in my experience. That is something that I shall no doubt have to get used to....

Member
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c22GC
House
House of Lords

Correct.

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c21GC
House
House of Lords

But not Clauses 45 to 47?

Member
Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c21GC
House
House of Lords

On behalf of the Opposition, I reciprocate the Minister’s words. We have had an exhaustive exploration of the whole subject of child maintenance and when we get to the next stage we will be able to refine our arguments dramatically. I have appreciated the Minister’s way of handling the Bill...

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Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c22GC
House
House of Lords

moved Amendments Nos. 215 to 218: 215: Clause 56, page 43, line 30, after ““32G,”” insert ““32HA,”” 216: Clause 56, page 43, line 30, after ““49A”” insert ““, 49AA”” 217: Clause 56, page 43, line 34, after ““32G,”” insert ““32HA,”” 218: Clause 56, page 43, line 34, leave out ““and...

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c21GC
House
House of Lords

I apologise for putting the amendment to the wrong clause. Like the noble Baroness and the Minister, I am 100 per cent in favour of netting off in the special examples given by the Minister and in the notes on the clauses. I think I must have private discussions with...

Member
Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c8GC
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, for the amendment. The clause to which he attached it focuses on something slightly different from the issue of shared care arrangements. I shall deal with that first and then try to pick up some of the points made about shared care. Currently,...

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c7-8GC
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 203: 203: Schedule 6, page 69, line 13, after first ““tax,”” insert ““contributions,”” On Question, amendment agreed to. [Amendment No. 204 not moved.]

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c15GC
House
House of Lords

I think the noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, may have something here. It is right to discuss something new. If there is a good reason why we should not do this, I would be interested to hear about it. It is not a big ask, to put it bluntly. I do...

Member
Lord Addington (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c19GC
House
House of Lords

I am happy to concur with that conclusion. It is certainly true that the Government’s policy is to move all financial support in the direction of child benefit and tax credits. We know that that is already happening for new claimants, but the latest date for transfer that I have—it...

Member
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c18-9GC
House
House of Lords

I have two things to say about that. Circumstances in Scotland are different in a number of respects. One of the most fundamental is that the Scottish courts, unlike the English, are accustomed to doing maintenance calculations—at least they did in my day. I may be talking slightly out of...

Member
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 February 2008
Reference
699 c4-5GC
House
House of Lords