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First, that is not the position in Sweden. Secondly, does the Minister not think that it is a good idea to remove our monarch from any possibility of involvement in politics?

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1717
House
House of Commons

The simple answer to the Minister's question is that the principle of parliamentary supremacy allows us to pass any Bill that we like, and it would take precedence over anything that we had passed previously.

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1715
House
House of Commons

I thank the Minister for giving way again, but trying to force a Bill through the House in a day is very difficult without the co-operation of the other parties. Resources and procedural devices could be used that are not used when the other parties are co-operating. Furthermore, without the...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1715
House
House of Commons

I suspected that that might be the case, and I also suspect that the Government might not like that provision at all. I accept that if I were to have the opportunity for the Bill to proceed I might have to give up that date to gain the Government's support....

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1707
House
House of Commons

That is not exactly true, for reasons that I shall explain later—they relate to the answer that I gave the hon. Member for Uxbridge (Mr. Randall)—but even if it were true, I do not think the hon. Lady would be right. I know that the leadership of my own party...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1705-6
House
House of Commons

It is not used often, and I fear that Governments might use it to clear out the rebellious Members whom they no longer wish to be in their party, which might be an attractive option for a Whip. Local authorities in our country offer another example. They are on strict...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1706
House
House of Commons

The hon. Lady's remarks are on the record to haunt her in future decades. A point against the present system is that it favours richer parties, which can raise funds to fight general elections more than once every four or five years. There may be something in what the hon....

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1704
House
House of Commons

I will indeed go into that later, but the point that my Bill tries to make is that to hold a general election in those circumstances should require a greater consensus among the political parties in the House of Commons and the other place than merely a decision by the...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1705
House
House of Commons

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. It is difficult to believe that last year the whole political and media establishment of this country spent more than two months doing little else but speculating about whether there would be a general election and when...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1703-4
House
House of Commons

I follow the hon. Gentleman's point, which is important, but the difference is that, in a fixed-term system, both the Government and the Opposition know when the election date is, whereas in our current system, only the Government know.

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1710
House
House of Commons

One could argue that fixed terms and PR go together, as often happens in other parts of Europe. If there were a fixed term that could be bypassed only with broad political consensus, parties would have to work together more. The hon. Gentleman talks about strong government, but I would...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1710-1
House
House of Commons

For almost the last century.

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1711
House
House of Commons

That is right, and that is in line with the practice in most other countries, although it could be changed by amending the House's Standing Orders. The Standing Orders in the other place are as great a mystery to me now as they have ever been. It would also be...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1709
House
House of Commons

That is a very interesting point, which had not occurred to me. My view in favour of May is strengthening as time passes, although I am not tied to these particular details. Another such detail is whether the term should last four years or five. Some countries have five-year Parliaments;...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1708
House
House of Commons

That is one point of view, but if the election were held at another time, I suspect that the budgetary cycle could be changed to make up for it. I chose May, although I am not wedded to it as a principle of the Bill, simply because that was when...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1707
House
House of Commons

Fortunately, it takes a long time to get Bills through without the co-operation of the other parties. It is easier for a Government to get Bills through this House than the other place, but the combination of the two would mean that it would take so long to get the...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1708-9
House
House of Commons

It should be. That is in line with at least one part of our existing constitution, because there is an exception to the Parliament Act that if there is a Bill to extend the life of Parliament, the House of Lords retains its ancient veto. As a safeguard, it should...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1708
House
House of Commons

I consider that to be an advantage of the Bill, although the form of politics that we have reached is arguably one in which there is campaigning all the time. That is true both in our system, where there is no fixed term, and in the US system, where there...

Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1707
House
House of Commons

Fixed Term Parliaments Bill. Queens consent signified. Second reading debate. Adjourned. Debate to be resumed 6 June.

Lead member
David Howarth
Answering member
Bridget Prentice
Department
Ministry of Justice
Type
Debates on bills
Date
16 May 2008
Reference
475 c1703-19
House
House of Commons
Member
David Howarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Ballot bills
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
Bill 30 2007-08
House
House of Commons