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It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Evans.

It is well known that the first and foremost job of any Government is to keep the public safe. Every one of us in this Chamber will know of people who have been impacted by industrial action. Every one of...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c78
House
House of Commons

Clearly, there is a wider context for children. It is about services and safety—those are both contexts in this—as well as livelihoods. All those things are affected when people do not provide a minimum service level.

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c78
House
House of Commons

If I may, I will respond to the question from the hon. Member for Kilmarnock and Loudoun (Alan Brown). All those things are affected when there is a universal strike. The Bill is about guaranteeing a minimum service level.

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c78
House
House of Commons

I am happy to give way to the hon. Member for Coventry South.

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c78
House
House of Commons

Negotiations need to go on. This does not stop—

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c78
House
House of Commons

In answer to the point from the hon. Member for Coventry South (Zarah Sultana), negotiations need to continue, and they need to be fair to workers, but also to the taxpayer, which I will touch on in a second.

I reject the characterisation of this Bill by the Opposition, who clearly...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c79
House
House of Commons

I do not accept the hon. Gentleman’s point. On nurses, we already have voluntary agreements, yet still they go on strike. The two things are consistent and are not mutually exclusive, but I recognise his point on the right to withdraw labour and bring attention to certain things, whether pay...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c79
House
House of Commons

I will give way to the hon. Gentleman.

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c79
House
House of Commons

The hon. Member makes an important point. We are happy with the agreement we have with the Royal College of Nursing, and that is why we are not consulting on minimum service levels for nurses. On ambulances, we got only last-minute agreements—we had to negotiate on a trust-by-trust basis—that provided...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c80
House
House of Commons

I will make some progress.

We clearly want to resolve these disputes, but we must do it in an affordable way. An inflation-matching pay increase of 11% for all public sector workers would cost £28 billion, which would put just under £1,000 on to the bills of every household in all...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c80
House
House of Commons

Nonsense.

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c86
House
House of Commons

indicated dissent .

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c86
House
House of Commons

I thank hon. Members on both sides of the Committee for their contributions.

Consistent with the contributions that have been made, this Government firmly believe that the ability to strike is an important element of industrial relations in the UK—it is rightly protected by law—and we understand that an element of...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c146
House
House of Commons

I will make a little progress and then bring the hon. Member in, although I might cover his point in my next comments.

To respond to some of the points made in the debate, particularly on scrutiny and process, clearly the consultations offer plenty of opportunities for hon. Members, their constituents,...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c146
House
House of Commons

I think it is quite clear. I was interested in the comments of my hon. Friend the Member for Newbury (Laura Farris) when she talked about the International Labour Organisation and its specifying of minimum service levels. It has stated that they do apply to essential services but could also...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c146
House
House of Commons

I will give way one last time; then I want to make some progress.

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c146
House
House of Commons

I am very happy to write to the hon. Gentleman to confirm that point, but we absolutely believe that this legislation is lawful and compatible with human rights legislation and international obligations.

My right hon. Friend the Member for North East Somerset (Mr Rees-Mogg) made a typically insightful and thoughtful speech...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c147
House
House of Commons

I will make some progress, if I can. I may come back to the right hon. Gentleman in a moment.

My hon. Friend the Member for Newbury speaks with great authority on these matters and, as I said, pointed out clearly that the ILO says that as a general principle MSLs...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c147
House
House of Commons

That would be for a court to decide—[Hon. Members: “Oh!”] Of course it would be for a court to decide, because the only action that can be taken against a union can be by the employer in the courts. A union would then define what the reasonable steps would be....

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c147
House
House of Commons

I will make some progress, if I can—

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 January 2023
Reference
727 c147
House
House of Commons