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My Lords, I am delighted to introduce this EU Committee report on Brexit and the European Investment Bank. In doing so, let me start by thanking all members of the sub-committee who participated in the inquiry, some of whom cannot be here today. As I have stood down as chairman...

Member
Baroness Falkner of Margravine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc199-203
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Falkner of Margravine, on securing this much-needed debate and on having been such an excellent chairman of the EU Financial Services Sub-Committee, which I joined too late to have any input into this report. It is a privilege for me to follow...

Member
Viscount Trenchard (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc202-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I also begin by congratulating the noble Baroness, Lady Falkner, on having chaired our committee so effectively and introduced this debate so tellingly. I also thank everyone else involved in the production of this excellent report.

I hope noble Lords will forgive me if I take a lateral approach...

Member
Lord Giddens (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc205-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I start by saying how very much I have enjoyed serving on the EU finance sub-committee. I have now been rotated from it on to the Select Committee on the social effects of gambling. I hope one is not regarded as a qualification for the other. As has...

Member
Lord Butler of Brockwell (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc209-210
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this report can be commended for enabling negotiations with the EU to be arrived at in advance—an approach absent from Brexit negotiations thus far. I hope that the new political guard will take note of the messaging this evening.

The report recognises the worrying position we seem to be...

Member
Viscount Waverley (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc210-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I draw attention to my entry in the register of Members’ interest. I too thank the noble Baroness, Lady Falkner of Margravine, for her time as chair of the committee. With her energy, knowledge and commitment, she will be an extremely hard act to follow. I regret that...

Member
Baroness Liddell of Coatdyke (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc213-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is the first committee report that I have been involved in since I joined this House. I add my tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady Falkner, for her excellent chairmanship of the sub-committee during this inquiry and more generally. I do not think that our new chairman...

Member
Lord Vaux of Harrowden (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc215-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I join all the other members of the committee in thanking my noble friend Lady Falkner for introducing this debate and for her chairmanship of the committee over the last four years. She has done it with considerable application, skill and expertise, and will be sadly missed. The...

Member
Lord Bruce of Bennachie (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc217-8
House
House of Lords

Does the noble Lord agree that the UK does in fact have a lot of experience, through the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, which is funding the one belt, one road initiative from China all the way through central Asia and beyond? Maybe there is a lot we could learn from...

Member
Viscount Waverley (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 c218
House
House of Lords

That is indeed true, and of course, Danny Alexander is one of the directors of that bank.

The point, which has been drawn out by all the speakers, is that infrastructure banks—promotional banks, as my noble friend Lady Bowles described them—are well established in many countries. You could argue that the...

Member
Lord Bruce of Bennachie (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc218-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Falkner, both on her conduct of an excellent committee and a splendid

report and on the speech in which she presented the issues. All other contributions really just reinforced the main points she made, which covered an excellent report that presents...

Member
Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc219-222
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I begin by thanking the noble Baroness, Lady Falkner, for selecting this important topic for debate, for her speech in introducing it, and all noble Lords who have participated in our discussion this evening. I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Vaux, for his good wishes on...

Member
Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc221-5
House
House of Lords

Will the Minister comment on the committee’s recommendation that the Government consider setting up a national infrastructure bank? That is exactly the mixture of private and public funds.

Member
Lord Bruce of Bennachie (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 c225
House
House of Lords

Yes, I will come to that. That is one of the most important themes that has run through this debate.

Many noble Lords mentioned investment in decarbonisation and in green projects. We have a suite of tools to support private investment in infrastructure. The contracts for difference scheme has made the...

Member
Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc225-7
House
House of Lords

The point that I was trying to make with regard to ESA 2010 is that it should be in our laws because it was from the EU and we have actually now transposed it into our Brexit preparation legislation. It is not a question of us running on our own...

Member
Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 c227
House
House of Lords

I have in front of me the relevant paragraph in the Select Committee report, which states that:

“The EIB’s liabilities do not feature on the national balance sheets of EU Member States”—

which was the point that the noble Baroness was just making—

“but we were told that a similar UK institution would...

Member
Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc227-8
House
House of Lords

I must come back very briefly. I was not saying where the EIB should or should not be; the point is that national investment banks should also not be within the public sector accounts. It is clearly made in The Role of National Promotional Banks (NPBs) in Supporting the Investment...

Member
Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 c228
House
House of Lords

I hope the eloquence of the noble Baroness will be heard by the ONS, which is at the moment the arbiter of what does and does not score. I have almost overrun my time. I thank once again all those who have participated in this debate. No doubt the committee...

Member
Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 c228
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it remains for me to thank all Members who have spoken tonight. There were some excellent speeches that will merit rereading in Hansard tomorrow.

The Minister shone a little light on the negotiations with regard to our retained earnings—a very little light—but perhaps he shone slightly more light on...

Member
Baroness Falkner of Margravine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 c228
House
House of Lords

Lords motion to take note of the twenty-fifth report of the European Union Committee on Brexit: the European Investment Bank (HL 269). Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Baroness Falkner of Margravine
Answering member
Lord Young of Cookham
Department
Treasury; European Union Committee
Type
Debates on select committee reports
Date
16 July 2019
Reference
799 cc199-228
House
House of Lords