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Department for Culture, Media and Sport
Type
Deposited papers
Date
25 July 2023
Reference
DEP2023-0652
House
House of Lords

My Lords, before speaking to my Amendment 239A, I thank my noble friend the Minister, the Secretary of State and the teams in both the department and Ofcom for their collaborative approach in working to bring forward this group of amendments. I also thank my cosignatories. My noble friend Lady...

Member
Baroness Harding of Winscombe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 cc2148-9
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Moylan

186A: Before Clause 64, insert the following new Clause—

“Terms of service as a contract

The terms of service under which a Category 1 service is provided to a person who is a consumer for the purposes of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 must be treated as being a contract...

Member
Lord Moylan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 c2056
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in speaking to my Amendment 186A, I hope that noble Lords will forgive me for not speaking in detail to the many other amendments in this group correctly branded “miscellaneous” by those who compile our lists for us. Many of them are minor and technical, especially the government...

Member
Lord Moylan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 cc2056-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I shall speak to my Amendment 275A in this group. It would place a duty on Ofcom to report annually on areas where our legal codes need clarification and revision to remain up to date as new technologies emerge—and that is to cover technologies, some of which we...

Member
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 cc2058-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 191A in my name. I also support Amendment 186A in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Moylan, Amendment 253 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, and Amendment 275A in the name of my noble friend Lady Finlay. I hope...

Member
Baroness Kidron (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 cc2059-2061
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will make some arguments in favour of Amendment 191A, in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron, and inject some notes of caution around Amendment 186A.

On Amendment 191A, it has been my experience that when people frequently investigate something that has happened on online services, they...

Member
Lord Allan of Hallam (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 cc2061-3
House
House of Lords

Does the noble Lord accept that that is already a possibility? You can bring an action in contract law against them on the grounds that it is an unfair contract. This could happen already. It is as if the noble Lord is not aware that the possibility of individual action...

Member
Lord Moylan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 c2062
House
House of Lords

I am certainly aware that it is there but, again, the noble Lord has just made the point himself: this supplements it. The intent of the amendment is to give consumers more rights under this additional piece of legislation; otherwise, why bother with the amendment at all? The noble Lord...

Member
Lord Allan of Hallam (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 c2062
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will speak briefly on a couple of amendments and pick up from where the noble Lord, Lord Allan, just finished on Amendment 186A. I associate myself with all the comments that the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron, made on her Amendment 191A. As ever, she introduced the amendment...

Member
Baroness Harding of Winscombe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 c2064
House
House of Lords

My Lords, even by previous standards, this is the most miscellaneous of miscellaneous groups. We have ranged very broadly. I will speak first to Amendment 191A from the noble Baroness,

Lady Kidron, which was so well spoken to by her and by the noble Baroness, Lady Harding. It is common...

Member
Lord Clement-Jones (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 cc2064-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as others have said, this has been a very interesting tour d’horizon of some of the points in the Bill that we still need to resolve. I will not go over too much of the detail that has been raised because those points need a response from the...

Member
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 cc2066-7
House
House of Lords

My wife, who is chairman of a number of things, objects to “chair” as “furniturism”. She likes to be referred to as a person and not a thing.

Member
Lord Deben (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 c2067
House
House of Lords

I respect the noble Lord’s point. I did not make a specific proposal; I simply asked why the Bill was framed in circumstances that are not those required by the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel.

Moving on, Amendment 288A, which addresses the issue of multiple characteristics, is welcome. I am grateful...

Member
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 cc2067-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, let me add to this miscellany by speaking to the government amendments that stand in my name as part of this group. The first is Amendment 288A, which we mentioned on the first group of amendments on Report because it relates to the new introductory clause, Clause 1,...

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 cc2069-2070
House
House of Lords

I understand the report on a specific death, which is very welcome and part of the regime as we all see it. The very long list of things that the coroner may not know that they do not know, as I set out in the amendment, is the issue which...

Member
Baroness Kidron (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 c2070
House
House of Lords

We are keen to ensure that coroners have access to the information and expertise that they need, while respecting the independence of the judicial process to decide what they do not know and would like to know more about and the role of the Chief Coroner there. It is a...

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 cc2070-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the Minister has not stated that there is a duty to collaborate. Is he saying that that is, in fact, the case in practice?

Member
Lord Clement-Jones (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 c2071
House
House of Lords

Yes, there is a duty, and the law should be followed. I am not sure whether the noble Lord is suggesting that it is not—

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 c2071
House
House of Lords

Is there a duty to collaborate between regulators?

Member
Lord Clement-Jones (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2023
Reference
831 c2072
House
House of Lords