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To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, what financial support her Department has provided to (a) the Convention on Migratory Species and (b) the Preventing Poisoning Working Group of the Convention on Migratory Species in the last five years; and what her policy is on...

Asked by
Alex Cunningham (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
9 December 2015
Reference
18457
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, with reference to Resolution 11.15 adopted by the Eleventh Conference of the Parties to the Convention on the Conservation of Migratory Species of Wild Animals in November 2014, what (a) assessment she has made of and (b) information...

Asked by
Alex Cunningham (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
9 December 2015
Reference
18465
House
House of Commons

I beg to move,

That this House has considered lead shot ammunition.

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Davies, in my first Westminster Hall debate.

An important petition is posted on the Parliament website and thousands of people from across the country have signed it, including eight in my...

Member
Gerald Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c319WH
House
House of Commons

I have already given you my apologies, Mr Davies, but I might have to leave early. Does my hon. Friend agree that given that the known negative health effects of lead are well established and that, to minimise risk, lead has been removed from paint and petrol, it seems a...

Member
Carolyn Harris (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c319WH
House
House of Commons

I wholeheartedly agree. I hope to set out in the course of my contribution why that is such an important point.

Some people have even explained the fall of the Roman empire as having been caused by the Romans’ use of lead in pipes and cosmetics. More recently, the World Health...

Member
Gerald Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 cc319-320WH
House
House of Commons

I am sure my hon. Friend was as shocked as I was to discover that the existing regulations have a poor rate of compliance. In 2013 the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs commissioned a study that showed that 70% of ducks sampled had been killed with lead shot....

Member
Carolyn Harris (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c320WH
House
House of Commons

I thank my hon. Friend for making that point, which illustrates how the existing arrangements are unsatisfactory and in some cases ineffective, which is why they need to be updated.

Birds die gradually from lead poisoning, but die they do. The WWT found that one in four migratory swans seen at...

Member
Gerald Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c320WH
House
House of Commons

I am struggling to understand why the hon. Gentleman thinks that the existing regulations are not sufficient to deal with the problem. Would he back more detailed environmental studies to work out what the real effect on the community is?

Member
John Howell (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c320WH
House
House of Commons

During the remainder of my contribution I hope to address the point made by the hon. Gentleman.

Simply removing lead shot, as I said, does not solve the problem, because traces of lead can be left in the meat. In the UK, as many as 12,500 children under eight eat game...

Member
Gerald Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 cc320-1WH
House
House of Commons

As the hon. Gentleman said, the shooting of birds with lead shot has been going on for many centuries. Where is the public health crisis to which he alludes? It would be news to many colleagues, because we have not had people coming to our surgeries or writing to us...

Member
Charles Walker (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c321WH
House
House of Commons

It is not a case of the vast majority of members of the public speaking out on an issue such as this, but the studies are out there. I have outlined some in my contribution and will outline more.

The Food Standards Agency has also highlighted the risks to pregnant women....

Member
Gerald Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c321WH
House
House of Commons

In advance of the debate I talked to a number of clay pigeon shooting grounds in and around my constituency, and their problem with steel shot is that it ricochets. If lead shot is banned, all those shooting grounds will be put out of business—not just in and around my...

Member
Charles Walker (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c321WH
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman makes a good point, but there are alternatives that could be looked at. We are asking for this matter to be properly looked at and investigated, with a timescale to phase out lead.

As I said, there are good alternatives to lead on the market such as tungsten,...

Member
Gerald Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 cc321-2WH
House
House of Commons

May I draw the House’s attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests and also to the fact that I am probably the only Member who has been shot by a lead cartridge? It was about 35 years ago and I still carry 20 lead pellets in...

Member
Lord Hart of Tenby (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c323WH
House
House of Commons

If toxicity is not a problem, why does the Food Standards Agency advise frequent eaters of lead-shot game to reduce their consumption for health reasons?

Member
Alex Cunningham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c323WH
House
House of Commons

I am grateful for that intervention. I have not yet said, and I am not sure that I will say, that there is no toxicity issue at all. Perhaps if the hon. Gentleman will hear me and other colleagues out, he may get the answer he requires.

The Lead Ammunition Group...

Member
Lord Hart of Tenby (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 cc323-4WH
House
House of Commons

I am listening closely to my hon. Friend. Will he address my concern that steel shot ricochets, which will cause the closure of many shooting grounds, and that tungsten, bismuth and Hevi-shot cost five to seven times as much as lead? That would be a significant part of most people’s...

Member
Charles Walker (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c324WH
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend makes a good point. We have to consider all these things in the round. It is no doubt very easy to find reasons to argue in favour of a general phase-out of lead, but unless we have applied the same rigorous test to the alternatives—whether it is...

Member
Lord Hart of Tenby (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 c324WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to speak about this issue, and I thank the hon. Member for Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney (Gerald Jones) for securing the debate. Unfortunately, I do not hold the same opinion as him; I want to make that clear at the outset. I want to raise important...

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 cc324-6WH
House
House of Commons

I begin by reminding Members that I am the chairman of the all-party group on shooting and conservation, which enjoys wide membership from both sides of the House. Secondly, I draw attention to my entry on the Register of Members’ Financial Interests: I participate in shooting sports.

Shooting and conservation are...

Member
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 December 2015
Reference
603 cc326-7WH
House
House of Commons