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I am grateful for the opportunity to discuss this important issue, and I thank you, Mr Chope, for allowing me to open the debate, in which I will call for the voting age to be lowered to 16. It is a pleasure to do so under your chairmanship.

I am grateful...

Member
Baroness Elliott of Whitburn Bay (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c222WH
House
House of Commons

Does the hon. Lady agree that allowing 16 and 17-year-olds to vote would enable engagement with younger people, by allowing the House to hear what they want us to do for them?

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c222WH
House
House of Commons

I could not agree more with that valuable point, which I will address.

Some 16 and 17-year-olds hold positions of great responsibility and already contribute much to our society, and they should be given the opportunity to influence key decisions that directly affect their lives and communities. We should ensure that...

Member
Baroness Elliott of Whitburn Bay (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 cc222-3WH
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend agree that one of the problems that we have in this country is voter turnout? When I was elected, turnout was 65% of those on the electoral register; in the first election in the area in which I voted, turnout was 83%. That is one of...

Member
Susan Elan Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c223WH
House
House of Commons

Anything we can do to encourage people to participate is a good thing for our democratic process.

Some 16 and 17-year-olds have carried out their own research into the issue and have ended up lobbying me on my visits about their right to vote. Last month, we saw members of the...

Member
Baroness Elliott of Whitburn Bay (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 cc223-4WH
House
House of Commons

At a recent meeting of the all-party parliamentary group on youth affairs, where the issue was debated, a small number of the young people present did not believe that they should have the vote at 16, but the main reason that they gave was that young people do not have...

Member
Julie Hilling (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c224WH
House
House of Commons

I could not agree more. If having enough knowledge to understand what one is voting about were a prerequisite, it would rule out many people.

Member
Baroness Elliott of Whitburn Bay (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c224WH
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is making a clear case. As somebody who has spent pretty much all my working life with 16 and 17-year-olds, and who has worked for the past two years with Members of Parliament, I must say that 16 and 17-year-olds have as much to say and as...

Member
Nicholas Dakin (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c224WH
House
House of Commons

Absolutely, and they often say it with much more passion and punch than we do. Young people of 16 and 17 know and understand the principles of democracy. We hope that lowering the voting age would further increase their interest in politics. Election turnouts among young people are already low....

Member
Baroness Elliott of Whitburn Bay (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 cc224-5WH
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend mentioned that there was no commitment in the Conservative party’s manifesto or the coalition agreement, but that has not stopped the coalition from coming forward with ideas that were not part of the agreement. Surely, it could do so here.

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c225WH
House
House of Commons

That is a good point.

Lowering the voting age to 16 will inspire young people to get involved in our democracy and extend the rights due to them. Our 16 and 17-year-olds are ready and willing to participate in our democratic system. The next step is surely to grant votes at...

Member
Baroness Elliott of Whitburn Bay (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c225WH
House
House of Commons

I congratulate and thank the hon. Member for Sunderland Central (Julie Elliott) for securing this debate and for her considered remarks. I also thank other colleagues for their contributions.

It falls to me to respond to some of the questions that she raised, and I am happy to do so. I...

Member
Chloe Smith (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 cc225-6WH
House
House of Commons

Will the Minister explain the Government’s thinking? If they accept that 16 and 17-year-olds can vote in the referendum on Scottish independence, why can 16 and 17-year-olds not vote in elections more generally? What is the difference?

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c226WH
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is as mischievous as ever. He knows very well that, in the case that he has just cited, it is the desire of the Scottish Government that that should be the franchise for the referendum. The Government of who I am a part is led by the...

Member
Chloe Smith (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c226WH
House
House of Commons

Does the Minister not feel that there might be some dangers in conceding as the Government have done in Scotland—in a way that might not be as well controlled as if the Electoral Commission had had full control—rather than doing so properly for the country as a whole? That would...

Member
Sheila Gilmore (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c226WH
House
House of Commons

The UK Government’s view is that many things would be better if we were to stay together as a United Kingdom. That might be one of the many questions that should be raised in the next two years of the campaign. However, the hon. Lady raises a wise point in...

Member
Chloe Smith (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 cc226-8WH
House
House of Commons

The Minister has provoked me. She mentions consultation with Bite the Ballot, for example. Surely, she will have picked up that that organisation, like all the others that she has engaged with regarding individual electoral registration, supports votes at 16. Have they not persuaded her yet?

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c227WH
House
House of Commons

I am afraid that they have not. I look forward to hearing a conclusive argument, if there is one, that takes the majority of society with it. I must return to the point that we in Parliament seek to represent our constituents. I could not honestly say that a majority...

Member
Chloe Smith (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c227WH
House
House of Commons

For me, the bottom line is that, if a young person aged 16 can give full consent to medical treatment, leave school and enter work or training, pay income tax and national insurance, obtain tax credits

and welfare benefits in their own right, consent to sexual relationships, get married or...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c227WH
House
House of Commons

I am just coming to the end. They may also join the armed forces and become a company director. Surely, if all those things apply, logically, why should voting be exempt?

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 December 2012
Reference
555 c229WH
House
House of Commons