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Lord Evans of Temple Guiting
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Lords debate on unstarred question on what plans they have to improve support for public museums and galleries to enable them to make new acquisitions for their collections.
Lords debate on unstarred question on what plans they have to improve support for public museums and galleries to enable them to make new acquisitions for their collections.
Lead member
Lord Howarth of Newport
Answering member
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting
Department
Department for Culture, Media and Sport
Type
Questions for short debate
Subjects
Cultural heritage; Artworks; Finance; Licensing; Exports; National Lottery; Museums and galleries; National Heritage Memorial Fund; Prices; Objects in lieu of tax; Sales; Tax allowances; Collections
Date
30 October 2006
Reference
686 c31-56GC
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I can be totally reassuring about the national security advisers based at the Museums, Libraries and Archives Council because I used to chair that body and spent many happy hours talking to the security advisers and seeing what they did. They have a tremendous reputation in the UK, and they are very often asked for advice by overseas museums.
As for the regions, there were 14 thefts from regional museums across the UK but, given that there are more than 1,800 accredited museums, that is not a large number. Local authorities are responsible for local museums and the security advisers feel that they do a really good job.
My Lords, I can be totally reassuring about the national security advisers based at the Museums, Libraries and Archives Council because I used to chair that body and spent many happy hours talking to the security advisers and seeing what they did. They have a tremendous reputation in the UK, and they are very often asked for advice by overseas museums.
As for the regions, there were 14 thefts from regional museums across the UK but, given that there are more than 1,800 accredited museums, that is not a large number. Local authorities are responsible for local museums and the security advisers feel that they do a really good job.
Answered by
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Harrison
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, in the light of recent thefts and the need to protect some £5 billion of treasures in our national museums, is my noble friend satisfied that the museums security officer, who has two members of staff to help him, has sufficient resources for the task of securing our museums and for the widening task of offering advice to our European colleagues on these matters? Will the Minister say a little more about regional museums? Do those valued museums in our regions enjoy the same level of security?
Subjects
Finance; Museums and galleries; Security; Theft; Collections
Date
22 June 2005
Reference
672 c1644
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, that is a much bigger question, which I imagine may relate to the Science Museum. Whatever the arguments about funding of national museums, security cannot be skimped on. The sum of £37 million was spent on security. One museum, which I do not intend to name, spent £7.9 million on security last year. There is no need to worry about security at our museums.
My Lords, that is a much bigger question, which I imagine may relate to the Science Museum. Whatever the arguments about funding of national museums, security cannot be skimped on. The sum of £37 million was spent on security. One museum, which I do not intend to name, spent £7.9 million on security last year. There is no need to worry about security at our museums.
Answered by
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting
(Labour)
Asked by
Viscount Astor
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, museum security very much depends on the resources available. Can the Minister give an assurance that national museums and galleries have been sufficiently compensated for the costs involved in introducing free admission?
Subjects
Finance; Museums and galleries; Security; Theft; Collections
Date
22 June 2005
Reference
672 c1645
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, of course. When museums look at what they display, they carry out risk assessments and take relevant action. Obviously, if a small museum in one of the regions has an extremely valuable object, but does not feel that it can be protected adequately, it will be kept in safe storage.
My Lords, of course. When museums look at what they display, they carry out risk assessments and take relevant action. Obviously, if a small museum in one of the regions has an extremely valuable object, but does not feel that it can be protected adequately, it will be kept in safe storage.
Answered by
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Addington
(Liberal Democrat)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, museums and galleries are under pressure to display their back catalogues or stored items. Will the Minister give an assurance that they will not have to increase the number of items on display unless they have sufficient resources to make sure that they are secure?
Subjects
Finance; Museums and galleries; Security; Theft; Collections
Date
22 June 2005
Reference
672 c1644-5
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I do not have figures on the National Trust, but I know that it has its own highly effective security advisers. Certainly, national security advisers liaise with National Trust advisers. Obviously, I agree with the noble Baroness that many of our national treasures are held in National Trust houses.
My Lords, I do not have figures on the National Trust, but I know that it has its own highly effective security advisers. Certainly, national security advisers liaise with National Trust advisers. Obviously, I agree with the noble Baroness that many of our national treasures are held in National Trust houses.
Answered by
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting
(Labour)
Asked by
Baroness Trumpington
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, does the National Trust come into the deliberations of the Government? Some of the most beautiful and valuable things in this country are owned by the National Trust. It would be very sad if they were stolen or lost in a fire.
Subjects
Finance; Museums and galleries; Security; Theft; Collections
Date
22 June 2005
Reference
672 c1645
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I agree with my noble friend. Access is of critical importance. Noble Lords will know that it was this Government who abolished entrance fees in order to increase the number of people visiting museums. On looking at the figures on theft, it is fascinating to see that most thefts occurred in places in museums where the general public do not go—areas that are not of great interest to them.
A great deal of money is spent on museum security, which has been a constant during the past four or five years. If there is a problem with a museum, as there was with the V&A last year, additional resources are given to that museum to enhance its security.
My Lords, I agree with my noble friend. Access is of critical importance. Noble Lords will know that it was this Government who abolished entrance fees in order to increase the number of people visiting museums. On looking at the figures on theft, it is fascinating to see that most thefts occurred in places in museums where the general public do not go—areas that are not of great interest to them.
A great deal of money is spent on museum security, which has been a constant during the past four or five years. If there is a problem with a museum, as there was with the V&A last year, additional resources are given to that museum to enhance its security.
Answered by
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Maxton
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, while it is important that we ensure the safety of our treasures in museums and galleries, is there not a danger that increasing expenditure on security will make access to those treasures by the general public more difficult? If money is to be available for museums and galleries, should we not spend it on improving access and educational services?
Subjects
Finance; Museums and galleries; Security; Theft; Collections
Date
22 June 2005
Reference
672 c1645
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I am aware of that. I am also aware that whenever a famous painting is stolen from anywhere in the world the same thing always applies. Apparently, more people are lining up in Oslo to see where "The Scream" was hung than were there before.
My Lords, I am aware of that. I am also aware that whenever a famous painting is stolen from anywhere in the world the same thing always applies. Apparently, more people are lining up in Oslo to see where "The Scream" was hung than were there before.
Answered by
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting
(Labour)
Asked by
Earl Ferrers
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, does the noble Lord realise that he need not worry too much about security if he wishes more people to visit museums? Some years ago the Goya painting of the Duke of Wellington was purchased by a grateful nation and was hung in the National Gallery. Someone pinched it and more
people went to see the place where the picture had hung than ever went to see the picture when it hung there.
Subjects
Finance; Museums and galleries; Security; Theft; Collections
Date
22 June 2005
Reference
672 c1645-6
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the low level of theft from public art galleries and museums in the UK reflects the strong emphasis placed on security and suggests that the funding available is sufficient to minimise the risk. In 2003–04, 15 thefts were reported to the national security advisers. In 2004–05, there were just eight thefts at DCMS-sponsored museums and galleries. DCMS-sponsored museums spent £36.5 million on security in 2004–05, which is 13 per cent of their total grant-in-aid from government. These figures do not include the loss of two live guinea pigs from the Horniman Museum last year. Whether that was a theft or an elaborate escape plan remains unclear.
My Lords, the low level of theft from public art galleries and museums in the UK reflects the strong emphasis placed on security and suggests that the funding available is sufficient to minimise the risk. In 2003–04, 15 thefts were reported to the national security advisers. In 2004–05, there were just eight thefts at DCMS-sponsored museums and galleries. DCMS-sponsored museums spent £36.5 million on security in 2004–05, which is 13 per cent of their total grant-in-aid from government. These figures do not include the loss of two live guinea pigs from the Horniman Museum last year. Whether that was a theft or an elaborate escape plan remains unclear.
Answered by
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Harrison
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Whether British art galleries and museums devote sufficient resources to ensuring the security of their collections.
Subjects
Finance; Museums and galleries; Security; Theft; Collections
Date
22 June 2005
Reference
672 c1644
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Whether British art galleries and museums devote sufficient resources to ensuring the security of their collections.
Whether British art galleries and museums devote sufficient resources to ensuring the security of their collections.
Asked by
Lord Harrison
(Labour)
Answered by
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting
(Labour)
Oral questions - Lead
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Answered
For answer on
22 June 2005
Answered on
22 June 2005
My Lords, the low level of theft from public art galleries and museums in the UK reflects the strong emphasis placed on security and suggests that the funding available is sufficient to minimise the risk. In 2003–04, 15 thefts were reported to the national security advisers. In 2004–05, there were just eight thefts at DCMS-sponsored museums and galleries. DCMS-sponsored museums spent £36.5 million on security in 2004–05, which is 13 per cent of their total grant-in-aid from government. These figures do not include the loss of two live guinea pigs from the Horniman Museum last year. Whether that was a theft or an elaborate escape plan remains unclear.
Subjects
Finance; Museums and galleries; Security; Theft; Collections
Date
22 June 2005
Reference
672 c1644
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords