Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Monday, 29 June 2015, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Williams of Trafford.

Cities and Local Government Devolution Bill [HL]

Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 10 to 14 agreed to. Schedule 4 agreed to. (Part 3 of 3).

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 762 cc1887-1926
Session: 2015-16
Department: Department for Communities and Local Government
Legislative stage: Committee stage
Procedure: New clauses
Chamber / Committee: House of Lords chamber
Related items: Cities and Local Government Devolution Bill (HL) 2015-16
Thursday, 28 May 2015
Bills
House of Lords; Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee first report.
Wednesday, 17 June 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords; Cities and Local Government Devolution Bill [HL]; Psychoactive Substances Bill [HL]; Charities (Protection and Social Investment) Bill [HL]. Constitution Committee (HL) second report.
Thursday, 18 June 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords; Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee second report.
Wednesday, 24 June 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords; Cities and Local Government Devolution Bill [HL]
Monday, 29 June 2015
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords; Deposited Paper DEP2015-0581
Tuesday, 7 July 2015
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions: Lord Teverson | 762 c1887 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Teverson
44DE: After Clause 9, insert the following new Clause—
“...; Lord Teverson | 762 cc1887-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I speak on this amendment put forward by my noble friends Lord Shipley, Lord Scriven an...; Lord Beecham | 762 c1888 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, there is a good deal of sense in this amendment. Of course, there are areas—my own is o...; Lord Scriven | 762 cc1888-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am pleased to put my name to this amendment and I thank my noble friend Lord Teverson...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 cc1889-1890 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will respond first to the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Scriven. I will talk lat...; Lord Teverson | 762 cc1890-1 (Link to this contribution)
No one more than me welcomed the ambitious £38 billion investment which has been shown to be over...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 c1891 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot confirm that those local authorities had any inkling—there is no one from Manchester or ...; Lord Scriven | 762 c1891 (Link to this contribution)
The purpose of the amendment is not to say that it has not altered. Let me give a practical examp...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 c1891 (Link to this contribution)
I take the noble Lord’s point that if an international investor was reliant upon the fact that th...; Lord Teverson | 762 c1891 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for her reply. There is a real problem here and it is something th...; Lord Shipley | 762 c1892 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Shipley
44F: Clause 10, page 10, line 25, at end insert—
“( ) Whe...; Lord Shipley | 762 c1892 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 44F very briefly. We had a helpful debate last week about the...; Lord Liddle | 762 cc1892-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendments 44H, 44J, 44K and 44L are in my name. They are probing amendments, and in sp...; Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 762 cc1895-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow my noble friend. I agree with much of what he was saying, es...; Lord Scriven | 762 cc1896-7 (Link to this contribution)
I will very quickly say that I fully support everything that the noble Baroness, Lady Royall, sai...; Lord Liddle | 762 c1897 (Link to this contribution)
Could I just make clear what I thought I had made clear in my speech? I was not saying that the o...; Lord Scriven | 762 c1897 (Link to this contribution)
I understand what the noble Lord says, but the Bill says that when there is disagreement you woul...; Lord McKenzie of Luton | 762 cc1897-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we have Amendments 44G and 45A in this group, to which I shall speak first. Amendment 4...; Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 762 cc1899-1900 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will address this issue in relation to combined authorities and take up the points ra...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 cc1900-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have all made interesting points this evening. On Amendment 44F...; Lord Shipley | 762 c1901 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her response to Amendment 44F, and in particular for ...; Lord Shipley | 762 c1901 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Shipley
45: Clause 10, page 10, line 30, at end insert—
“( ) Befo...; Lord Shipley | 762 cc1901-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I can be brief because the noble Lord, Lord Woolmer, has addressed part of the aim behi...; Lord Beecham | 762 c1905 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have to say that I regard this amendment as somewhat unreal. I had the pleasure of wo...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 cc1905-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to hear that the noble Lord will regret that we concur; we quite often concur. It is n...; Lord Shipley | 762 c1906 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the contribution of the noble Lord, Lord Beecham. I will say two things in resp...; Baroness Janke | 762 c1906 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Baroness Janke
46: After Clause 10, insert the following new Clause—
“...; Baroness Janke | 762 cc1906-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I draw your attention to this anomaly because it relates to my own city of Bristol. By ...; Lord Beecham | 762 cc1907-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, on this occasion, I am happy to support the amendment from the Liberal Democrat Benches...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 cc1908-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have listened with interest to the comments of the noble Baroness, Lady Janke, and th...; Lord Beecham | 762 c1909 (Link to this contribution)
What particular knowledge does Parliament have about the condition of Bristol? Whence does it der...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 c1909 (Link to this contribution)
The point that I was making was that Parliament had created this situation so it would be for Par...; Baroness Janke | 762 c1909 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for her response. I am clear that Parliament cannot bind itself to future le...; Lord Shipley | 762 c1909 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Shipley
46A: After Clause 10, insert the following new Clause—
“I...; Lord Shipley | 762 cc1909-1910 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment aims to help drive forward positive progress on devolution within England...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 c1910 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is an enabling Bill to put in place the primary legislative framework for the devo...; Lord Shipley | 762 c1910 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her response. We will look carefully at what she has ...; Lord Shipley | 762 cc1910-1 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Shipley
47: After Clause 10, insert the following new Clause—
“Go...; Lord Shipley | 762 cc1911-2 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 47 takes us to the heart of an issue that we have talked a great deal about over the th...; Lord Tyler | 762 cc1912-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am delighted to support my noble friend. In recent years, Parliament has been prepare...; Lord Beecham | 762 c1913 (Link to this contribution)
Would the noble Lord like to comment on the situation in the Greater Manchester Combined Authorit...; Lord Tyler | 762 c1913 (Link to this contribution)
Whether or not they are the origin of the Bill that is before us, I think the noble Lord will rec...; Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 762 c1914 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, is that not the privilege of the local electorate? If they choose to return a particula...; Lord Tyler | 762 c1914 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that is nonsense. The noble Baroness should simply look at what has happened in Scotlan...; Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 762 cc1914-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare that I am an elected member of Lewisham Council in south London. This has bee...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 c1915 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we debated this previously in earlier debates. Amendment 47 would amend the Representat...; Lord Shipley | 762 c1915 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I listened to the very brief response from the Minister. This will be an issue that we ...; Lord Tyler | 762 cc1915-6 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Tyler
48: After Clause 10, insert the following new Clause—
“Gove...; Lord Tyler | 762 cc1916-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this House will do itself a real disservice if it is not prepared to look at the exampl...; Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 762 cc1918-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this proposed new clause to be inserted after Clause 10 gives effect to the policy of m...; Lord Shipley | 762 c1919 (Link to this contribution)
I add two facts for ministerial consideration. One fact that really struck me about the Scottish ...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 cc1919-1920 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, there is no doubt that the Scottish referendum and debate was unique, certainly in my l...; Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 762 c1920 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am pleased about the Minister’s final remarks, because I think the drop is catastroph...; Lord Tyler | 762 c1920 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this late at night I am grateful for any crumbs that fall from ministerial tables. I su...; Lord McKenzie of Luton | 762 cc1920-1 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord McKenzie of Luton
48A: After Clause 10, insert the following new Clause...; Lord McKenzie of Luton | 762 cc1921-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this issue was brought before us by London Councils—I am grateful for its briefing. Thi...; Lord Tope | 762 cc1922-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I added my name to this amendment but, sadly, too late to get it printed on the Marshal...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 cc1923-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very happy to use this probing amendment to set out how I see the position in rela...; Lord McKenzie of Luton | 762 c1924 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Tope, for his support for this amendment and to t...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 c1924 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as far as I am aware, it does not. I draw noble Lords’ attention to the manifesto commi...; Lord McKenzie of Luton | 762 c1924 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that and think that I am reassured by it. I think that it needs a quieter readi...; Baroness Williams of Trafford | 762 c1924 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, before amendments are withdrawn et cetera, I can confirm that, and have actually alread...; Lord McKenzie of Luton | 762 c1924 (Link to this contribution)
On that basis, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Subjects: Devolution Local government Powers Urban areas
Legislation: Cities and Local Government Devolution Bill (HL) 2015-16
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Cities and Local Government Devolution Bill [HL]

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