Debate on bill on Tuesday, 10 March 2026, in the House of Commons, led by David Lammy. The answering members were Nick Timothy, Kieran Mullan and Sarah Sackman.

Courts and Tribunals Bill

Second reading. Reasoned amendment negatived on division (203 to 311). Main question agreed to on division (304 to 203). Programme motion on proceedings in public bill committee, consideration, third reading and other proceedings. Agreed to on question. Money resolution. King's Recommendation signified. Agreed to on question. Deferred divisions. Agreed to on question. Carry-over motion. Agreed to on question.

Secondary information

Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 782 cc199-294
Session: 2024-26
Department: Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage: Second reading
Procedure: Deferred divisions; Proxy voting; Money resolutions; Carry-over motions; King's recommendation; Reasoned amendments
Chamber / Committee: House of Commons chamber
Related items: Courts and Tribunals Bill 2024-26
Wednesday, 25 February 2026
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions: Nusrat Ghani | 782 c199 (Link to this contribution)
The reasoned amendment in the name of the loyal Opposition has been selected.
1.37 pm; David Lammy | 782 c199 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
I am very proud to bring this Bill ...; John Hayes | 782 c200 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is right that the rule of law is a living thing, and the connection betw...; David Lammy | 782 c200 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely retain the right hon. Gentleman’s view that juries are a cornerstone of our system. ...; Naz Shah | 782 c200 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Secretary of State for the progress he is making. I am for reform. My concern, as his...; David Lammy | 782 c200 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend probably has more lived experience of the criminal justice system than many others...; Imran Hussain | 782 c191 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend is right to set out the importance of jury trials as a cornerstone of our de...; David Lammy | 782 c191 (Link to this contribution)
I know that when my hon. Friend is upset, his baritone deepens—it was not quite as deep today as ...; Jim Shannon | 782 c201 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister and the Government are caught between a rock and a hard place. They have to address ...; David Lammy | 782 c201 (Link to this contribution)
Juries remain a cornerstone, and I reassure the hon. Gentleman that what we are proposing is abou...; Karl Turner | 782 c201 (Link to this contribution)
When the Justice Secretary talks about juries, is it not right to point out that 0.4% of cases fr...; David Lammy | 782 c201 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is entirely right: 41% are successful, and that, of course, means that 59% are not...; Jeremy Wright | 782 c202 (Link to this contribution)
The Lord Chancellor has quite properly recognised the Government’s debt of gratitude to Sir Brian...; David Lammy | 782 c192 (Link to this contribution)
We have, of course, accepted the thrust of Sir Brian’s recommendations, but there are areas in wh...; Stella Creasy | 782 c192 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend give way?; David Lammy | 782 c192 (Link to this contribution)
I will, and then I will make some progress.; Stella Creasy | 782 c192 (Link to this contribution)
I think we all share my right hon. Friend’s passionate desire to support the victims who are wait...; David Lammy | 782 c192 (Link to this contribution)
That is why we have uncapped sitting days for the Crown Court, and that is why I am proposing fur...; Danny Chambers | 782 c192 (Link to this contribution)
rose—; David Lammy | 782 c203 (Link to this contribution)
I am going to make some progress, because I think that otherwise I will upset you, Madam Deputy S...; Munira Wilson | 782 c204 (Link to this contribution)
I think that all of us across the House share the Justice Secretary’s passion for delivering just...; Nusrat Ghani | 782 c193 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Before the Lord Chancellor responds, let me say that many Back Benchers wish to contribute...; David Lammy | 782 c193 (Link to this contribution)
We are piloting the national listing scheme at Isleworth Crown court. I refer the hon. Lady to my...; Joy Morrissey | 782 c193 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Lord Chancellor give way?; David Lammy | 782 c193 (Link to this contribution)
I will not, given what has just been said by Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Bill will remove the...; Joy Morrissey | 782 c193 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Lord Chancellor give way?; David Lammy | 782 cc193-205 (Link to this contribution)
I will not, given what has been said by Madam Deputy Speaker. I have to make some progress.; Jacob Collier | 782 c194 (Link to this contribution)
The campaign to introduce clause 17 was supported by my Conservative predecessor, Kate Kniveton, ...; David Lammy | 782 c206 (Link to this contribution)
Absolutely. I also want to refer to the case of Claire Throssell—she is in the Gallery—and her so...; Nusrat Ghani | 782 c206 (Link to this contribution)
I call the shadow Lord Chancellor.
2.9 pm; Nick Timothy | 782 cc206-7 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move an amendment, to leave out from “That” to the end of the Question and add:
“t...; Amanda Martin | 782 c207 (Link to this contribution)
Has the hon. Member, since writing his speech, seen the updated information available about the p...; Nick Timothy | 782 c195 (Link to this contribution)
The Institute for Government has made it absolutely clear that the figures that the Government ha...; Pam Cox | 782 c196 (Link to this contribution)
Would the hon. Member agree that legal judgment by peers or equals can include legal judgment by ...; Nick Timothy | 782 cc197-9 (Link to this contribution)
Magistrates have their place in the system, but jury trials are fundamental to our inheritance, a...; Emily Darlington | 782 c208 (Link to this contribution)
I appreciate that the hon. Member is into storytelling—it may be his next job—but what did he thi...; Nick Timothy | 782 c200 (Link to this contribution)
Crown court waiting times were actually lower under the Conservatives until the pandemic. It is t...; Natalie Fleet | 782 c200 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?; Nick Timothy | 782 cc200-9 (Link to this contribution)
I will not give way.
Of course, when the Justice Secretary’s predecessor, the Home Secretar...; Linsey Farnsworth | 782 c210 (Link to this contribution)
On appeals against magistrates’ rulings, is the shadow Minister aware—as I am, through my experie...; Nick Timothy | 782 cc210-202 (Link to this contribution)
I do not accept that characterisation of magistrates courts. If that were a true cause for concer...; Jeremy Wright | 782 c202 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is making the point that consultation on and discussion of the Bill may be fruitfu...; Nick Timothy | 782 cc202-211 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. and learned Friend is exactly right. I was planning to turn to that point, because ...; Linsey Farnsworth | 782 c211 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?; Nick Timothy | 782 cc203-4 (Link to this contribution)
I will make some progress.
This opens up new risks. The publication of judges’ reasons is l...; Andrew Cooper | 782 c204 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?; Nick Timothy | 782 c204 (Link to this contribution)
I will not.
It is not difficult to see how this, too, will undermine public confidence in t...; Oliver Dowden | 782 c212 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is making some very important points. There is a more fundamental point about publ...; Nick Timothy | 782 c212 (Link to this contribution)
I completely—; Natalie Fleet | 782 c206 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?; Nick Timothy | 782 c206 (Link to this contribution)
I give way.; Natalie Fleet | 782 c207 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Member for Hertsmere (Sir Oliver Dowden) is absolutely right to talk about confide...; Nick Timothy | 782 c207 (Link to this contribution)
I totally understand what the hon. Lady says, and we are all interested in the best interests of ...; Pam Cox | 782 c207 (Link to this contribution)
rose—; Nick Timothy | 782 cc208-213 (Link to this contribution)
I will not give way again.
We are talking about a fundamental change in the way that we try...; Nusrat Ghani | 782 c213 (Link to this contribution)
There are shy of 60 people wishing to contribute. I urge Members to keep their contributions brie...; Karl Turner | 782 cc213-4 (Link to this contribution)
Madam Deputy Speaker, you and I have been friends for some time. I think you were elected in 2015...; Nusrat Ghani | 782 c214 (Link to this contribution)
I call the Liberal Democrat spokesperson.
2.39 pm; Jess Brown-Fuller | 782 cc214-5 (Link to this contribution)
The Liberal Democrats will be voting against the Bill, and we have tabled a reasoned amendment th...; Danny Chambers | 782 c215 (Link to this contribution)
I visited the Winchester courts recently and spoke to about a dozen barriers, who were all concer...; Jess Brown-Fuller | 782 c211 (Link to this contribution)
Joanna Hardy-Susskind put it well today, when she said:
“I have seen the adjournment of two...; Adnan Hussain | 782 c211 (Link to this contribution)
I have been a civil and a criminal law practitioner. The civil courts are not that far from the c...; Jess Brown-Fuller | 782 c211 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Member for that intervention; I have also seen the amendment that his group has ...; Rachel Gilmour | 782 c216 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that the original clause 39 of Magna Carta has guaranteed an individual...; Jess Brown-Fuller | 782 c212 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with some of what my hon. Friend said. I do agree that trial by jury is one of the only p...; Emily Darlington | 782 c212 (Link to this contribution)
I am trying to understand the hon. Lady’s point. Is she saying that we should now extend jury tri...; Jess Brown-Fuller | 782 c212 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to make it absolutely clear for the hon. Member. If I was allowed to get on, I could m...; Pam Cox | 782 c212 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady give way?; Jess Brown-Fuller | 782 cc212-7 (Link to this contribution)
I will make some progress.
If the Deputy Prime Minister and the Courts Minister believe tha...; Andy Slaughter | 782 cc218-3 (Link to this contribution)
The number of outstanding cases in the Crown court is 79,619. The outgoing Conservative Governmen...; Joe Robertson | 782 c213 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Member give way?; Andy Slaughter | 782 cc213-9 (Link to this contribution)
Not yet; I am conscious of the time.
The removal of the right to elect for either way offen...; Sarah Russell | 782 c219 (Link to this contribution)
In the magistrates court, only those who earn less than £21,000 a year—less than a full-time job ...; Andy Slaughter | 782 cc215-220 (Link to this contribution)
That is exactly the point that I somewhat briefly alluded to; I am glad that my hon. Friend outli...; Geoffrey Cox | 782 c220 (Link to this contribution)
I should declare an interest at the beginning. I am a member of the Bar—that is not uncommonly kn...; Pam Cox | 782 c220 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman give way?; Geoffrey Cox | 782 cc216-221 (Link to this contribution)
Not just now, but I will come back to the hon. Member.
We in this House are engaged in ideo...; Pam Cox | 782 c221 (Link to this contribution)
Will he give way?; Geoffrey Cox | 782 c221 (Link to this contribution)
Not now—later. I will.
I want to appeal to Labour Members. We are engaged in ideological st...; Catherine Atkinson | 782 c221 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman give way?; Geoffrey Cox | 782 cc221-218 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to the hon. Member for Colchester (Pam Cox) first, if she can give me just two se...; Catherine Atkinson | 782 c218 (Link to this contribution)
On that point—; Geoffrey Cox | 782 c218 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to the hon. Member for Colchester first.; Pam Cox | 782 c218 (Link to this contribution)
We could think of this exchange as Cox v. Cox. The right hon. and learned Gentleman mentions lega...; Geoffrey Cox | 782 c222 (Link to this contribution)
There has always been a summary jurisdiction—invariably never for offences of dishonesty, and inv...; Catherine Atkinson | 782 c222 (Link to this contribution)
Will he give way?; Andrew Cooper | 782 c220 (Link to this contribution)
Will he give way?; Geoffrey Cox | 782 c220 (Link to this contribution)
Not just now.
I say to the House, in all conscience, that jury trial is precious. Why? It i...; Karl Turner | 782 c220 (Link to this contribution)
It was telling when Jo Hamilton OBE wrote to the Justice Secretary—I think it was yesterday—to re...; Geoffrey Cox | 782 c221 (Link to this contribution)
I agree entirely with the hon. Gentleman. Postmasters, postmistresses, postmen—those whose honest...; Catherine Atkinson | 782 c223 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman give way?; Geoffrey Cox | 782 c223 (Link to this contribution)
No, I am not giving way. I am mindful of time and I must complete what I have to say.
This ...; 782 c223 (Link to this contribution); Geoffrey Cox | 782 cc223-4 (Link to this contribution)
I will not take interventions now, and certainly not if they are of the quality that we have had ...; Catherine Atkinson | 782 c224 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman give way?; Geoffrey Cox | 782 c222 (Link to this contribution)
No, I am not giving way. Let me make that clear now. I want to finish in a moment.
The real...; 782 c222 (Link to this contribution); Nusrat Ghani | 782 c222 (Link to this contribution)
We are now on a speaking limit of six minutes. I call Catherine West.
3.18 pm; Catherine West | 782 cc225-6 (Link to this contribution)
I hope to be a little more brief and less pompous than previous speakers. I am indebted to the ma...; Nusrat Ghani | 782 cc226-3 (Link to this contribution)
I call the Father of the House.
3.23 pm; Edward Leigh | 782 c223 (Link to this contribution)
Quite unusually, I have served as a practising barrister in courts and have also served on juries...; Sarah Russell | 782 c227 (Link to this contribution)
What does the right hon. Gentleman say about the freedom of women to walk the streets without fea...; Edward Leigh | 782 c227 (Link to this contribution)
Of course that is an important point—we are not debating that. Of course the backlog is wrong, bu...; Catherine Atkinson | 782 c227 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Member give way?; Edward Leigh | 782 c224 (Link to this contribution)
I may give way in a moment.
Others, not necessarily in our country, have commented on this....; Pam Cox | 782 c224 (Link to this contribution)
Would the right hon. Gentleman accept that the Bill preserves jury trials? It does not abolish th...; Edward Leigh | 782 c224 (Link to this contribution)
I am not suggesting that jury trials have been abolished. If the hon. Member listens to my speech...; Alicia Kearns | 782 c224 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend give way?; Edward Leigh | 782 c226 (Link to this contribution)
I hope my hon. Friend will forgive me, but Madam Deputy Speaker wants me to proceed.
The ba...; Geoffrey Cox | 782 c226 (Link to this contribution)
The other logical absurdity is that, under the Government’s proposed reforms, somebody with a pre...; Edward Leigh | 782 c227 (Link to this contribution)
That is a very fair point.
I ask Members to look to their conscience. If they, a Member of ...; Henry Tufnell | 782 cc229-230 (Link to this contribution)
The right to a fair trial is fundamental to our democracy. For certain offences, a fair trial wil...; Gideon Amos | 782 c230 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Chichester (Jess Brown-Fuller) on defending trial by...; Carla Lockhart | 782 c230 (Link to this contribution)
The Criminal Bar Association says it is “fundamentally opposed” to restricting jury trials, with ...; Gideon Amos | 782 c231 (Link to this contribution)
I do. The hon. Member is right: the problem with these reforms is that they are not going to spee...; Caroline Nokes | 782 c231 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I suggest that the hon. Gentleman might like to stay within the scope of this Bill rather ...; Gideon Amos | 782 cc231-2 (Link to this contribution)
The point I wish to make, Madam Deputy Speaker, is that this Bill should address the challenge fa...; Catherine Atkinson | 782 c232 (Link to this contribution)
I fully agree that jury trials are a hugely important part of our justice system, but does the ho...; Gideon Amos | 782 c232 (Link to this contribution)
Of course I accept that the legal system has evolved and changed, and that the right to trial by ...; Warinder Juss | 782 c229 (Link to this contribution)
We already have judges who make decisions on cases where children are taken away from parents, so...; Gideon Amos | 782 c230 (Link to this contribution)
Of course magistrates do a vital job, but when I visited magistrates in my constituency, they exp...; Natalie Fleet | 782 cc230-3 (Link to this contribution)
I want to start by pointing out that in this debate, we have called more barristers to speak than...; Neil Shastri-Hurst | 782 cc234-5 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bolsover (Natalie Fleet). Although she is on the o...; Kit Malthouse | 782 c235 (Link to this contribution)
Can my hon. Friend give us his views as a practitioner on something that has not yet been mention...; Neil Shastri-Hurst | 782 c235 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend is right. There is a reason that judges wear a wig and barristers wear a wig...; Alicia Kearns | 782 c232 (Link to this contribution)
Drawing on my hon. Friend’s point, we have also heard much argument that somehow reducing down to...; Neil Shastri-Hurst | 782 cc232-6 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right. First, there is the argument that this is of such constitutional signifi...; 782 c236 (Link to this contribution); Caroline Nokes | 782 cc236-3 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I propose putting in place a five-minute time limit after the next speaker.
3.59 pm<...; Charlotte Nichols | 782 cc233-5 (Link to this contribution)
I thought long and hard about speaking today. I will allow right hon. and hon. Members from the l...; Stella Creasy | 782 c238 (Link to this contribution)
I know at first hand the strength that my hon. Friend is showing in making this speech, and I kno...; Charlotte Nichols | 782 c238 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend.
The third thing to say is that, for me, closure began after a succe...; Sarah Pochin | 782 cc238-240 (Link to this contribution)
I speak today in favour of the reasoned amendment standing in the names of Reform UK MPs. Althoug...; Jon Trickett | 782 c240 (Link to this contribution)
When I was working for a living as a building worker, rather than being here, if there was a back...; Linsey Farnsworth | 782 c236 (Link to this contribution)
On that point, will my hon. Friend give way?; Jon Trickett | 782 cc236-241 (Link to this contribution)
No. I have only five minutes, and I will have to move fast.
The Deputy Prime Minister did c...; Katie Lam | 782 cc241-2 (Link to this contribution)
We have heard a great deal from Government Members about the necessity of these court reforms. Th...; Lee Barron | 782 cc242-3 (Link to this contribution)
This has been an incredible debate. I pay tribute to those who have felt able and courageous enou...; Liz Saville Roberts | 782 cc243-4 (Link to this contribution)
We all know that years of underfunding and under-investment have caused a crisis across our legal...; Emma Foody | 782 cc239-245 (Link to this contribution)
I have spoken in this place about my experience of being a magistrate before being elected. I rem...; Caroline Johnson | 782 c246 (Link to this contribution)
I should first declare an interest as an NHS consultant paediatrician who has given evidence in c...; Marie Tidball | 782 c246 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Lady recognise that in 2020 the harm panel said that that section creates a “pro-co...; Caroline Johnson | 782 cc241-2 (Link to this contribution)
That is why I have explained that the presumption is that the parents have involvement. The court...; Josh Fenton-Glynn | 782 c242 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady give way?; Caroline Johnson | 782 c243 (Link to this contribution)
Not for the moment. Article 8 of the European convention on human rights provides the right to fa...; Josh Fenton-Glynn | 782 c244 (Link to this contribution)
Will she please give way?; Caroline Johnson | 782 c246 (Link to this contribution)
I give way.; Josh Fenton-Glynn | 782 c247 (Link to this contribution)
In talking about the right to family life, the hon. Lady is talking not about the rights of the c...; Caroline Johnson | 782 c247 (Link to this contribution)
I understand what the hon. Gentleman is saying. I will continue my speech and perhaps he will lis...; Kirith Entwistle | 782 c247 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady give way?; Caroline Johnson | 782 cc247-8 (Link to this contribution)
I will not.
This legislation is potentially just a distraction—something that makes people ...; Tony Vaughan | 782 c248 (Link to this contribution)
I draw the House’s attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests, which i...; Karl Turner | 782 c248 (Link to this contribution)
What does my hon. and learned Friend say about the fact that judges will have to give detailed re...; Tony Vaughan | 782 cc247-9 (Link to this contribution)
I practised as a civil lawyer for most of my career, and I have been challenging written reasons ...; Siân Berry | 782 cc249-250 (Link to this contribution)
It was a privilege to be here for the powerful and effective speech from the hon. Member for Warr...; Apsana Begum | 782 cc250-1 (Link to this contribution)
No one is denying that after 14 years of desecration by the Conservatives, the backlog in the Cro...; Karl Turner | 782 c251 (Link to this contribution)
I have just looked at the recent stats. In 2025 there were 67 ethnic minority circuit judges and ...; Apsana Begum | 782 c248 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend highlights important and vital statistics that illustrate an issue in the legal sy...; Jim Allister | 782 c252 (Link to this contribution)
We have heard some powerful speeches today, none more so than that from the hon. Member for Warri...; Marie Tidball | 782 c249 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. and learned Member agree that, in fact, we are getting rid of them in only a quarte...; Jim Allister | 782 c250 (Link to this contribution)
We are getting rid of them in thousands of cases, which will deny to those who are accused in tho...; Emma Foody | 782 c251 (Link to this contribution)
I ask the hon. and learned Member two questions. First, does he not accept that magistrates are i...; Jim Allister | 782 cc251-3 (Link to this contribution)
Judges, no matter how intellectual, erudite or experienced they might be, do not have the life ex...; Matt Bishop | 782 cc253-4 (Link to this contribution)
At the heart of the reforms before us today is one word and one simple question: the word is vict...; Kirith Entwistle | 782 c254 (Link to this contribution)
Too many women have told me that the family courts felt like an extension of the abuse that they ...; Matt Bishop | 782 c254 (Link to this contribution)
I completely agree. Children must never be used as a tool through which abuse can continue after ...; 782 c254 (Link to this contribution); Caroline Nokes | 782 cc255-3 (Link to this contribution)
Members will be aware that a large number of people still wish to speak, so I will reduce the tim...; Ashley Fox | 782 c253 (Link to this contribution)
I support the reasoned amendment tabled by my right hon. Friend the Leader of the Opposition, whi...; Sarah Russell | 782 c254 (Link to this contribution)
I respect the hon. Gentleman and understand that his concerns about the Bill are genuinely rooted...; Ashley Fox | 782 c254 (Link to this contribution)
The right to a trial by jury is central to the English legal system. It has its roots in Magna Ca...; Helen Maguire | 782 c254 (Link to this contribution)
Removing jury trials is surely an erosion of the criminal justice system. As the hon. Gentleman h...; Ashley Fox | 782 cc255-6 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Lady’s point. The Government are changing the balance of power between the ...; Yasmin Qureshi | 782 cc256-7 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome much in this Bill, including the investment in legal aid, the additional sitting days a...; Vikki Slade | 782 cc257-8 (Link to this contribution)
There is absolutely no doubt that long delays in criminal court shake public confidence, and I ca...; Caroline Nokes | 782 cc258-9 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Lady’s time is up.
5.20 pm; Abtisam Mohamed | 782 c259 (Link to this contribution)
In my previous work as a solicitor, I represented women who had suffered terrible violence, and p...; James Naish | 782 c259 (Link to this contribution)
I will support the Government tonight, because it is clear that decisive action is needed to tack...; Abtisam Mohamed | 782 cc260-257 (Link to this contribution)
I do agree. The logical approach would be to treat this as a time-limited measure—or the Justice ...; Lincoln Jopp | 782 cc257-261 (Link to this contribution)
May I begin by paying a huge tribute to the hon. Member for Warrington North (Charlotte Nichols) ...; Sally Jameson | 782 cc261-259 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, pay tribute to those Members of the House who made exceptional contributions, particularl...; Rachel Taylor | 782 c259 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that there is nothing progressive about a working-class man spending a ...; Sally Jameson | 782 cc259-262 (Link to this contribution)
I completely agree. Whether they will be found innocent or guilty, people are entitled to their d...; Kirith Entwistle | 782 c262 (Link to this contribution)
I recently met judges in Bolton who spoke about issues with prisoner transportation that are also...; Sally Jameson | 782 cc262-1 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, as someone who was regularly held back from going on my dinner break because we were waiting...; 782 c261 (Link to this contribution); Judith Cummins | 782 c261 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I call Paulette Hamilton on a four-minute time limit, but after her I will be reducing it ...; Paulette Hamilton | 782 cc261-2 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak on a Bill that is both necessary and difficult. Let me start by saying that I sup...; Pam Cox | 782 c262 (Link to this contribution)
I very much respect what my hon. Friend is saying, but the right to elect is not an ancient right...; Paulette Hamilton | 782 c263 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for that contribution.
For ethnic minority communities, that right h...; Sarah Russell | 782 c263 (Link to this contribution)
The Judicial Executive Board produced a report on judicial bullying and racism in 2022, but has n...; Paulette Hamilton | 782 c263 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree. That does back up what I am saying.
I am not suggesting that our judici...; Jonathan Davies | 782 c263 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is making a very good speech and putting victims at the heart of what she is sayin...; Paulette Hamilton | 782 c263 (Link to this contribution)
I agree absolutely. Unless we work together to sort this out, we will not get a decent Bill that ...; Lloyd Hatton | 782 cc263-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted to speak as an enthusiastic supporter of the Courts and Tribunals Bill. I wish to ...; Ashley Fox | 782 c264 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member seems entirely ignorant of the success in Liverpool Crown court, where from 23 Ju...; Lloyd Hatton | 782 c264 (Link to this contribution)
I completely accept that there have been successes in some parts of the country, including in Liv...; Jess Brown-Fuller | 782 c264 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman believes that we should not have a pick and mix approach to Sir Brian Leves...; Lloyd Hatton | 782 cc264-5 (Link to this contribution)
The Government can put certain measures into one piece of primary legislation, but there could be...; Imran Hussain | 782 c264 (Link to this contribution)
I draw the attention of the House to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests: I ...; Catherine Atkinson | 782 c264 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, am a passionate believer in the jury system, but Sweden—which is No. 1 in the World Justi...; Imran Hussain | 782 c264 (Link to this contribution)
What I am saying is that there is a reason that we protect this liberty—this cornerstone of our s...; Warinder Juss | 782 c266 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that the restriction of jury trials in some cases is just one among a w...; Imran Hussain | 782 c265 (Link to this contribution)
These are not competing interests. I thank all hon. Members who have made brave and passionate sp...; Jonathan Davies | 782 c265 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is generous in giving way. He is making important points about potential overreach...; Imran Hussain | 782 c265 (Link to this contribution)
I will come to that point. I note, Madam Deputy Speaker, that I did not get an extra minute for t...; Judith Cummins | 782 c265 (Link to this contribution)
indicated dissent.; Imran Hussain | 782 c266 (Link to this contribution)
Okay. Perhaps I have been too generous with my time.
The real fear is that these changes wi...; Tristan Osborne | 782 c267 (Link to this contribution)
First, I pay tribute to all the hon. Members across the Chamber who have contributed to the debat...; Ian Lavery | 782 cc267-8 (Link to this contribution)
Many of my constituents tell me that they are disillusioned with politics and the institutions th...; Linsey Farnsworth | 782 c268 (Link to this contribution)
Anyone who has worked on the frontline of the criminal justice system knows that the Crown court ...; Amanda Hack | 782 c268 (Link to this contribution)
This is the crux of the issue that we are discussing today: how do make sure that justice is give...; Linsey Farnsworth | 782 c269 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend that this is about getting justice to victims, which defen...; Lloyd Hatton | 782 c269 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for making such an eloquent speech. Does she share my concern that if we w...; Linsey Farnsworth | 782 c268 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend, and I thank all those people working in the criminal just...; Catherine Fookes | 782 cc270-269 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak in favour of the Bill, but first I want to remind the House why these reforms mat...; Sarah Russell | 782 c269 (Link to this contribution)
On that point, there is a backlog in the family courts of 110,000 cases, more than what we are di...; Catherine Fookes | 782 c269 (Link to this contribution)
I agree that we need to do more. As a recipient of legal aid myself in the past, I know how impor...; Rachael Maskell | 782 cc271-0 (Link to this contribution)
When debating justice, I am first minded of the victim’s right to a process producing a fair and ...; Andrew Cooper | 782 cc270-2 (Link to this contribution)
A foundational principle of our constitution is that everyone is bound by and entitled to the ben...; Warinder Juss | 782 c272 (Link to this contribution)
I was recently contacted by a constituent who was raped more than three years ago. Her initial co...; Rachel Taylor | 782 c273 (Link to this contribution)
I really feel for my hon. Friend’s constituent. Warwickshire police used to have one of the worst...; Warinder Juss | 782 c271 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, the measures are all about getting timely justice, which is why I will support the Bill.
...; Anna Dixon | 782 c271 (Link to this contribution)
I recently visited Leeds Crown court, where I saw the benefits of some of that investment in a vi...; Warinder Juss | 782 cc272-4 (Link to this contribution)
Absolutely. I have had discussions with Sir Brian Leveson on a number of occasions, and he confir...; Kim Johnson | 782 c274 (Link to this contribution)
There is lots in this Bill that I really support, but I am ideologically opposed to restricting t...; Bell Ribeiro-Addy | 782 c274 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that after enduring 14 years of Conservative government, now is the opp...; Kim Johnson | 782 cc274-5 (Link to this contribution)
I really appreciate my good friend’s intervention, and I do agree. The review was a great piece o...; Pam Cox | 782 cc275-6 (Link to this contribution)
The Opposition have chosen to misrepresent this Bill. That is their choice, but it does the deliv...; Amanda Hack | 782 cc276-7 (Link to this contribution)
We have heard many moving speeches today. I pay tribute to my hon. Friends the Members for Warrin...; Marie Tidball | 782 c277 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to support this Bill, particularly clause 17— Jack and Paul’s law—to finally repeal the pr...; Sarah Russell | 782 c277 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree it is absolutely crucial that we fund contact centres properly, so that...; Marie Tidball | 782 c275 (Link to this contribution)
I do indeed. In combination with the provisions in the Bill to effect structural reform, to stop ...; Kirith Entwistle | 782 c276 (Link to this contribution)
I commend my hon. Friend on her exemplary campaigning on behalf of her constituent Claire Throsse...; Marie Tidball | 782 cc277-8 (Link to this contribution)
I do indeed agree with my hon. Friend.
When Jack and Paul died, Claire promised them that n...; Bell Ribeiro-Addy | 782 c278 (Link to this contribution)
While there is lots to welcome in the Bill, I fear it has been completely overshadowed by plans t...; Kim Johnson | 782 c278 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is talking about not jeopardising equality. Does she agree that more needs to be d...; Bell Ribeiro-Addy | 782 cc278-9 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. She will have heard people talk many times in this Chamber ab...; 782 c279 (Link to this contribution); Judith Cummins | 782 c278 (Link to this contribution)
I call Sarah Russell to make the final Back-Bench speech.
6.34 pm; Sarah Russell | 782 c278 (Link to this contribution)
I draw attention to the fact that I am a solicitor with a current practising certificate who has ...; Ben Maguire | 782 c278 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Member give way?; Sarah Russell | 782 cc279-280 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid I will not.
When we look at how much these measures will bring down the backlog...; Kim Johnson | 782 c280 (Link to this contribution)
The Justice Secretary identifies that we have these problems, and he talks about the delivery of ...; Sarah Russell | 782 c280 (Link to this contribution)
Obviously not everyone is exhibiting these traits and training can help, but my understanding, fr...; Judith Cummins | 782 c280 (Link to this contribution)
I call the shadow Minister.
6.38 pm; Kieran Mullan | 782 c280 (Link to this contribution)
It has been a positive debate in terms of the exchange of ideas, and there have been some fantast...; Catherine Atkinson | 782 c280 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?; Kieran Mullan | 782 cc280-1 (Link to this contribution)
Not yet.
We must have a serious discussion about why that is. It was disappointing for thos...; Alex McIntyre | 782 c281 (Link to this contribution)
Has the shadow Minister seen today’s statement from the Institute for Government, which has backe...; Kieran Mullan | 782 cc281-3 (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether the hon. Gentleman read the entire statement. What the institution actually said...; Sarah Sackman | 782 c283 (Link to this contribution)
It is my pleasure to deliver the closing speech for this Second Reading of the Courts and Tribuna...; Robert Jenrick | 782 c283 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?; Sarah Sackman | 782 cc281-4 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Member has not been here for the entire debate, so I am afraid that I am not going...; Edward Leigh | 782 c284 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?; Sarah Sackman | 782 c283 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way, but I am mindful of the time. I have to wrap up on time.; Edward Leigh | 782 c285 (Link to this contribution)
I do not expect an answer now, but will the Minister take away one point that I and others made, ...; Sarah Sackman | 782 cc285-4 (Link to this contribution)
I will not respond to that point now, but I will say that there needs to be equality before the l...; Adnan Hussain | 782 c284 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?; Sarah Sackman | 782 cc284-6 (Link to this contribution)
I will not give way, because I have a lot of comments to cover.
Members representing those ...
Subjects: Courts Juries Evidence Family proceedings Magistrates Parental responsibility Reform Tribunals Victims Witnesses Sexual offences Trials Video recordings Independent Review of the Criminal Courts Central Criminal Court
Legislation: Courts and Tribunals Bill 2024-26 to 2026-27
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