Backbench debate on Thursday, 12 January 2023, in the House of Commons, led by Lord Beamish. The answering members were James Cartlidge and Daniel Zeichner.

Landfill Tax Fraud

Motion that this House has considered the matter of landfill tax fraud. Agreed to on question.

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 725 cc772-802
Session: 2022-23
Department: Treasury
Chamber / Committee: House of Commons chamber
Related items: Landfill Tax fraud: Backbench Business Debate
Friday, 6 January 2023
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Proceeding contributions: Lord Beamish | 725 c773 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered the matter of landfill tax fraud.
I wan...; Jim Shannon | 725 c773 (Link to this contribution)
I commend the right hon. Gentleman for securing this debate, because such problems also affect No...; Lord Beamish | 725 c774 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for this intervention. The frustration is that we do not need...; Aaron Bell | 725 c774 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the right hon. Gentleman for securing this debate. He is absolutely right that someone wi...; Lord Beamish | 725 cc775-6 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, and I will come on to such an example in a minute. We only have to look at a company’s direc...; Kerry McCarthy | 725 c776 (Link to this contribution)
I am finding my right hon. Friend’s speech very educational. Does he share my concern about the p...; Lord Beamish | 725 cc776-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am not suggesting that happened in the Niramax case, but my hon. Friend is right that the indiv...; David Davis | 725 cc778-9 (Link to this contribution)
As we have come to expect, the right hon. Member for North Durham (Mr Jones) made a wise, insight...; Lord Beamish | 725 c779 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the right hon. Gentleman that not all operators involved in the sector are criminals...; David Davis | 725 cc779-780 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is right, and I will come back to the incentives—both criminal and legal...; Aaron Bell | 725 c780 (Link to this contribution)
The story of Niramax seems to foreshadow much of my experience in Newcastle. The Minister will ap...; David Davis | 725 c780 (Link to this contribution)
That is absolutely correct. I am sure Gresham did not have in mind blackmail and threats as well,...; Kerry McCarthy | 725 c781 (Link to this contribution)
I am finding what the right hon. Gentleman has to say very interesting. In the past, I have asked...; David Davis | 725 c781 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the aims the hon. Lady describes, but I am not sure whether this is a resource issue...; Lord Beamish | 725 c781 (Link to this contribution)
On that point, does the right hon. Gentleman agree that the big disconnect is between the policy ...; David Davis | 725 cc781-2 (Link to this contribution)
I agree. Exporting from Scotland to England will not help at all, so the right hon. Gentleman is ...; Matt Rodda | 725 c782 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is making an excellent speech. Does he agree that the same principle app...; David Davis | 725 c782 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right. There is almost a generic problem with local authorities. They very ...; Matt Rodda | 725 c782 (Link to this contribution)
I was not seeking to be overly critical of local authorities. I was trying to illustrate the wide...; David Davis | 725 cc783-4 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is reaching beyond my level of expertise, frankly. My view is that this clearl...; Liz Twist | 725 cc784-5 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my right hon. Friend the Member for North Durham (Mr Jones) and the right hon. Mem...; Lord Beamish | 725 c786 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who has been pursuing this for many years and we have had lots o...; Liz Twist | 725 c786 (Link to this contribution)
I most certainly agree with my right hon. Friend. Of course, we have had a history of such sites ...; Aaron Bell | 725 cc786-9 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Blaydon (Liz Twist), whose constituents experience...; Matt Rodda | 725 c789 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman want to say a little about the disruption and concern caused by heavy veh...; Aaron Bell | 725 cc789-790 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. That has been a significant problem in Newcastle...; Lord Beamish | 725 c790 (Link to this contribution)
It never ceases to amaze me that these things happen even when the Environment Agency understands...; Aaron Bell | 725 cc790-1 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. With illegal landfill sites in particular, we can a...; David Davis | 725 c791 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has talked of perverse incentives. As far as I am aware—and, as I have said, I ser...; Aaron Bell | 725 c791 (Link to this contribution)
I could not agree more. I cannot remember who it was who mentioned the Environment Agency earlier...; Lord Beamish | 725 c791 (Link to this contribution)
Another area in which some action is belatedly being taken is the export of waste, which not only...; Aaron Bell | 725 cc791-3 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is entirely correct. Indeed, as I mentioned last February in connection ...; Daniel Zeichner | 725 cc793-6 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my right hon. Friend the Member for North Durham (Mr Jones) and the right hon. Mem...; James Cartlidge | 725 cc796-7 (Link to this contribution)
It is a real privilege to respond to today’s Backbench Business debate. I congratulate the right ...; David Linden | 725 c797 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to intrude too much on this debate, but the Minister is right when he talks about t...; James Cartlidge | 725 c797 (Link to this contribution)
It is fair to say that the hon. Gentleman has got that on the record, but he will appreciate that...; Lord Beamish | 725 c797 (Link to this contribution)
Listen, as I said in my contribution, I have no problem with the actual policy. It has been effec...; James Cartlidge | 725 c797 (Link to this contribution)
I was just being frank with the right hon. Gentleman. It is a relatively difficult tax to enforce...; Lord Beamish | 725 c797 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?; James Cartlidge | 725 cc797-8 (Link to this contribution)
I will make a bit of progress first and turn to Operation Nosedive, which I think every single co...; Liz Twist | 725 c798 (Link to this contribution)
Of course I will ask why it happened and ask for details, and of course I got the reply about con...; James Cartlidge | 725 c798 (Link to this contribution)
As I understand it, the figure is public—[Hon. Members: “It is now!”]—following robust campaignin...; David Davis | 725 c798 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way before he moves on?; James Cartlidge | 725 c798 (Link to this contribution)
I am now on Walleys Quarry, so I will stick with that. My hon. Friend the Member for Newcastle-un...; David Davis | 725 cc798-9 (Link to this contribution)
In a way, the Minister’s comments on Walleys Quarry reinforce the point. He says it is a difficul...; James Cartlidge | 725 c799 (Link to this contribution)
I understand where my right hon. Friend is coming from. Speaking generally about all these cases ...; Liz Twist | 725 c799 (Link to this contribution)
It is good to hear that there will be some progress, but the issue lies with the operators and pe...; James Cartlidge | 725 cc799-800 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady will appreciate that that is a DEFRA consultation, but I strongly encourage her to ...; Matt Rodda | 725 c800 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister write to me on the related matter of trying to quantify the scale of fly-tippin...; James Cartlidge | 725 cc800-1 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right that it is not within my bailiwick, but I am happy for my officials t...; Lord Beamish | 725 c801 (Link to this contribution)
This question is within the Minister’s bailiwick: as colleagues have said, the higher rates have ...; James Cartlidge | 725 cc801-2 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman makes an important point. He will appreciate that I am not going to pred...; Lord Beamish | 725 c802 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my parliamentary neighbour, my hon. Friend the Member for Blaydon (Liz Twist); the right ...
Subjects: Crime Fraud Enforcement Environment protection Environmental health Hazardous substances Landfill Landfill tax Environment Agency Pollution control Waste management Revenue and Customs Walley's Quarry Landfill Niramax
Legislation: Finance Act 1996
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Landfill Tax Fraud

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