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Debate on Thursday, 12 October 2017, in the House of Commons, led by Matt Hancock. The answering member was Lord Brennan of Canton.


Leaving the EU: Data Protection

Motion that this House has considered Exiting the European Union and Data Protection. Agreed to on question.


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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
629 cc497-550 
Session
2017-19
Department
Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Matt Hancock | 629 c498 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered Exiting the European Union and Data Protectio...

Stephen Timms | 629 c498 (Link to this contribution)

I very much agree with the points that the Minister is making and the ambition he is setting out....

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Matt Hancock | 629 cc498-9 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to the right hon. Gentleman’s extensive understanding of these issues, not only fro...

Brendan O'Hara | 629 c499 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said “something akin” to an adequacy deal. Will he explain what that might mean?

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Matt Hancock | 629 c500 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, of course. Our future relationship with the EU will be bespoke. We want to make sure that th...

Wes Streeting | 629 c500 (Link to this contribution)

No one would dispute the worthiness of the Minister’s intentions, but the UK will none the less c...

Matt Hancock | 629 c500 (Link to this contribution)

That is our objective in terms of the goal, but I have one difference with the premise of the hon...

Vicky Ford | 629 c500 (Link to this contribution)

The UK has more than 10% of data flows, more than three quarters of which are with the EU, and mo...

Matt Hancock | 629 c500 (Link to this contribution)

I agree wholeheartedly and strongly with my hon. Friend, who is an expert in these matters, havin...

Tom Brake | 629 c501 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for so generously giving way. I just wanted to press him on the point that h...

Matt Hancock | 629 c501 (Link to this contribution)

What it means is that the arrangements are harmonised right now. Should the Data Protection Bill ...

Darren Jones | 629 c501 (Link to this contribution)

On the point about what the general data protection regulation provides as an opportunity, does t...

Matt Hancock | 629 cc501-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the Under-Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union, my hon. Friend the Me...

Tom Brake | 629 c502 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is being very generous with his time. I am sure that he is aware that the people of ...

Matt Hancock | 629 c502 (Link to this contribution)

Gibraltar is, and will continue to be, part of the United Kingdom. The Under-Secretary of State f...

Tom Brake | 629 c502 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving a detailed response. I just wanted to put on record my interest i...

Matt Hancock | 629 c502 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad that I gave the right hon. Gentleman the opportunity to do so.

A strong relations...

Stephen Timms | 629 c502 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad that the Minister is committed to seeking this adequacy agreement. Does he recognise th...

Matt Hancock | 629 cc502-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thought that the right hon. Gentleman might raise that. I understand his amendment and the reas...

Lord Brennan of Canton | 629 c503 (Link to this contribution)

First, let me apologise for my right hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Hodge Hill (Liam Byrn...

Matt Hancock | 629 c503 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is quite right. Of course, Gibraltar is part of the UK family. I should have b...

Lord Brennan of Canton | 629 cc503-5 (Link to this contribution)

As ever, the Minister is modest enough to accept when he makes a mistake and correct the record.<...

Matt Hancock | 629 c506 (Link to this contribution)

Just on a point of English language, it is clearly not a truth universally acknowledged, because ...

Lord Brennan of Canton | 629 c506 (Link to this contribution)

Well, at least the Minister did not claim that Jane Austen was our greatest living author—I will ...

Robert Neill | 629 cc506-7 (Link to this contribution)

I will not stray on to the issue of authors, living or dead, but I do want to address three issue...

Robert Courts | 629 c507 (Link to this contribution)

I think I am right in saying that the UK has the largest digital economy in the G20. If that is t...

Robert Neill | 629 cc507-8 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The two key messages that one gets on this topic from Gibralt...

Tom Brake | 629 c508 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Gentleman able to clarify for me whether that is one of the data exchanges that are s...

Robert Neill | 629 c508 (Link to this contribution)

My understanding is that it is likely to be subject to the ECJ, and we concluded that while we mi...

Vicky Ford | 629 c508 (Link to this contribution)

On the subject of valuable data exchanges, does my hon. Friend agree that we also need to continu...

Robert Neill | 629 c509 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right and I pay tribute to the work that she did on this and several other issu...

Darren Jones | 629 c509 (Link to this contribution)

I stress my agreement with the hon. Gentleman’s remarks about these sharing systems. An example g...

Robert Neill | 629 c509 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is right, and that was the tenor of the evidence that we heard from all the la...

Tom Brake | 629 c510 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the hon. Gentleman’s excellent Committee had an opportunity to look at the conti...

Robert Neill | 629 cc510-1 (Link to this contribution)

The clear evidence given to us was that the only viable contingency plan would be a significant t...

Brendan O'Hara | 629 cc511-3 (Link to this contribution)

At the start of this week, the Prime Minister told the United Kingdom to be prepared for the poss...

Matt Hancock | 629 c513 (Link to this contribution)

The negotiation of the EU’s future relationship with the UK is not some sort of informal approach...

Brendan O'Hara | 629 cc513-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his point, but I stress again what Rosemary Jay said: the Commission has...

Stephen Kerr | 629 c514 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great privilege to follow the hon. Member for Argyll and Bute (Brendan O’Hara). He is a n...

Stephen Timms | 629 c514 (Link to this contribution)

Of course Norway is not a member of the European Union, but is a member of the single market.

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Stephen Kerr | 629 c514 (Link to this contribution)

That is the worse-case scenario of being on the receiving end of a flow of regulation with no inp...

Wera Hobhouse | 629 c514 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that leaving the single market and the customs union was not on...

Stephen Kerr | 629 cc514-6 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that there is much virtue in rerunning the Brexit debate today, when we are discus...

Stephen Kerr | 629 cc516-7 (Link to this contribution)

No, they are not separate things. I want our country to be at the forefront of this revolution, b...

Lord Brennan of Canton | 629 c517 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening with great interest to the hon. Gentleman’s speech. If he is saying that we should...

Stephen Kerr | 629 cc518-9 (Link to this contribution)

No, I did not actually say we should not participate. I am saying that we should think further af...

Stephen Timms | 629 cc519-520 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to follow the hon. Member for Stirling (Stephen Kerr) and will pick up on one or two...

Matt Hancock | 629 c520 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the right hon. Gentleman that the British MEPs had a strong influence on the GDPR as...

Stephen Timms | 629 cc520-1 (Link to this contribution)

No, certainly not. I am delighted that my Labour colleagues in the European Parliament have retai...

Matt Hancock | 629 c521 (Link to this contribution)

A point that I hope will reassure the right hon. Gentleman is that EU jurisprudence will be broug...

Stephen Timms | 629 c521 (Link to this contribution)

The proposal is that article 8 will not be there any more. The problem is this: where in the Euro...

Matt Hancock | 629 c521 (Link to this contribution)

This is an incredibly important point, so I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for allowing ...

Stephen Timms | 629 c521 (Link to this contribution)

The problem is that it is not. There is no clear assertion anywhere in UK law—other than, at pres...

Daniel Zeichner | 629 c522 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making extremely important points. The very fact that we are having the d...

Stephen Timms | 629 c522 (Link to this contribution)

As chair of the all-party parliamentary group on data analytics, my hon. Friend is in a very good...

Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi | 629 c522 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making an excellent speech and some very pertinent points. Many tech firm...

Stephen Timms | 629 c522 (Link to this contribution)

The firms in my hon. Friend’s constituency are absolutely right. If we do not achieve that adequa...

Lord Brennan of Canton | 629 c522 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps we can draw an analogy with my right hon. Friend’s earlier remarks about the customs unio...

Stephen Timms | 629 c522 (Link to this contribution)

The problem is that if it is not an adequacy agreement in name, it is not clear what it is. [Inte...

Jeremy Lefroy | 629 c522 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman, a fellow member of the Exiting the European Union Committee, agree...

Stephen Timms | 629 cc522-3 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to the hon. Gentleman for his work on that Committee, and his suggestion could well...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 629 c523 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to call to make his maiden speech Mr Matt Western.

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Matt Western | 629 cc523-7 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I am grateful for the opportunity to make my maiden speech in th...

Vicky Ford | 629 cc527-8 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Warwick and Leamington (Matt Western) on his excellent maiden ...

Jeremy Lefroy | 629 c528 (Link to this contribution)

Given my hon. Friend’s experience in the European Parliament, does she agree that it is not only ...

Vicky Ford | 629 c528 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is spot-on correct. We need not only to get things right and workable on the day o...

Wera Hobhouse | 629 c528 (Link to this contribution)

I was in Brussels a couple of weeks ago, and as much as it is true that our European partners wou...

Vicky Ford | 629 c529 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention, but I simply do not agree. On issues such as digital ...

Daniel Zeichner | 629 cc529-531 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my regional neighbour, the hon. Member for Chelmsford (Vicky Ford). Ma...

Mark Tami | 629 c531 (Link to this contribution)

Many smaller companies in particular are not aware of what is coming down the road and what sort ...

Daniel Zeichner | 629 cc531-3 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Much work needs to be done to raise awareness of what the GDP...

Alex Sobel | 629 cc533-5 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Warwick and Leamington (Matt Western) on his maiden ...

Darren Jones | 629 cc535-6 (Link to this contribution)

I declare my interest as set out in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests. I pay tribute t...

Alison Thewliss | 629 c536 (Link to this contribution)

The issues that the hon. Gentleman is setting out are crucial to the whole Brexit debate. Would h...

Darren Jones | 629 c536 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with that sentiment. Dare I say it, but very few Government Members are present? Although...

Matt Hancock | 629 c536 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to intervene, but I have already explained that because European jurisprudence is bein...

Darren Jones | 629 cc536-8 (Link to this contribution)

With respect to the Minister, I am not persuaded that that will be agreed by the European Commiss...

Wera Hobhouse | 629 cc538-9 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Warwick and Leamington (Matt Western) on his excellent maiden ...

Jim Shannon | 629 cc539-542 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Warwick and Leamington (Matt Western) on an incredible speech....

Lord Brennan of Canton | 629 cc542-4 (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the House, Madam Deputy Speaker.

This has been a very interesting debate....

Matt Hancock | 629 cc543-7 (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the House, Madam Deputy Speaker, I shall reply for the Government to this excel...

Stephen Timms | 629 c547 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister recognise that the absence of article 8 will make his goal harder to achieve? H...

Matt Hancock | 629 cc547-8 (Link to this contribution)

I think the right hon. Gentleman is wrong on this point, which no doubt we will debate during the...

Darren Jones | 629 c548 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister says that the guidance should come out early, but it is already too late in respect ...

Matt Hancock | 629 c548 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman speaks like a true lawyer. The hon. Member for Cardiff West said that the hon....

Wera Hobhouse | 629 c548 (Link to this contribution)

As I have said, we have been in Brussels and heard time and again from different sides that it is...

Matt Hancock | 629 cc548-9 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is wrong about that. She is also wrong to have said that there is no certainty abou...

Subjects
Disclosure of information Data protection Administration of justice Business Cross border cooperation Data processing Digital technology EU law Internet Personal records Privacy Charter of Fundamental Rights (EU) Brexit
Legislation
Data Protection Bill (HL) 2017-19
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